5 Doberman Colors And The One To Avoid

Do you know the Doberman exists in 5 different colors?

Do you know which Doberman colors are recognized or restricted by kennel clubs?

Most people know the Doberman as a black dog with brown markings.  This is the most popular and most often seen hair color. But the Doberman is also born in a few other colors.

dobermans in different color hair

The 5 different coat colors are:

  • black
  • red
  • blue
  • fawn
  • white

The most common Doberman hair color is obviously the black and tan, sometimes called black and rust, or black and brown. In a healthy dog, it looks shiny and sleek.

The next most widely seen color is the red Doberman, which is a light brownish-red hair coloring. Sometimes red Dobermans are called “chocolate Dobermans”. There are different shades of red hair, ranging from a copper tone to a dark chocolate. Adding to the confusion, the color names also vary around the world, some Europeans call red Dobermans, brown.

Below you can see the traditional black and tan Doberman color alongside a red Doberman.

Black & Tan Doberman | Red Doberman

black and red dobermans together in grass, red doberman sometimes called chocolate doberman

Blue Doberman | Fawn Doberman

The Doberman dog is also seen in a fawn color and a blue color which is seen much less often.

Blue Dobermans and fawn Dobermans are both color dilutions. The fawn Doberman, (sometimes called Isabella color or cinnamon) is a diluted red. The blue Doberman is a dilute of black. And the blue Doberman is sometimes called a gray Doberman or silver Doberman. The gray color may have a charcoal gray, silver, or purple tone.

These last two Doberman colors, the greys, and fawns are sometimes discouraged from breeding. They are considered a disqualifying fault in some dog shows. Even so, it’s felt that these dogs are not inferior to the reds or blacks if good breeding is present.

fawn doberman standingblue doberman standing

The White Doberman

Lastly, we have the rare Doberman with white or light-colored cream fur. The White Doberman Pinscher came from inbreeding and is considered a partial albino Doberman. The first documented albino Doberman, Sheba, was born on November 10, 1976.  White Dobermans today descend from Sheba, who was inbred to create white Dobermans.

It’s common knowledge that these white Dobermans tend to have health problems and behavioral issues. They can have skin and eyesight problems, like photosensitivity. Because it has poor vision, the dog may be unsure of its surroundings. This can lead to aggressive behavior, like fear biting. As a result, some countries have banned the breeding of this dog mutation, and breeders are encouraged not to breed for this color. It is seen as inhumane to the dog due to the potential for serious health concerns. white albino doberman lying in green grass

The white Doberman looks interesting but breeders should avoid introducing these dogs into their bloodlines.  Also, consumers and dog lovers need to be educated about the health concerns of these dogs.  Although these white Dobermans look beautiful, these dogs should not command higher dog prices. Especially when they may need more medical care. If someone wants a white dog there are better white breeds to choose from.

Having said all this, if you do find a white Doberman rescue dog or a white Doberman from a breeder with a good reputation, who does health testing,  please give them a chance. Not all white Dobermans are problematic and they can still make great companions. Just remember buyer beware.

All-Black Doberman?

All-black Dobermans are rarely seen but do exist. They are known as melanistic Dobermans. These are black Dobermans without the usual rust color markings.  Like the white Doberman, they should not be bred. These black Dobermans are not part of the official standard for the breed. Again, ethical breeders who care about Dobermans won’t breed these dogs.

What’s Your Favorite Doberman Color? 

DOBERMAN COLOR CHART

pie chart of favorite doberman colors

In a survey on this website, we asked visitors which color was their favorite.

14,568 votes were collected over five years.

The winner as expected was the black & tan color with 62% of the votes, with the reds in second place with 24%. And it’s interesting that blue Dobermans slightly beat out fawn Dobermans by 2%.

Favorite Doberman Color Voting Results:

  • Black/Tan = 62%
  • Red = 24%
  • Blue = 8%
  • Fawn = 6%

Whatever color your Doberman is, remember they have short hair and are sensitive to cold temperatures. Get them a fun winter dog sweater if you can.

321 thoughts on “5 Doberman Colors And The One To Avoid”

  1. I am familiar with dobermans I we had five dobermans when I was a young child. My mother and father had one, then my stepmother and father had two of them, then my grandparents had two. I am also familiar with Wiemarienars I had two Wiemarienars which I have papers the other one’s my mother say’s she still has papers on. I am not sure about anyone else. I am looking for a PPD because I have a medical condition in which I feel I will need one in the future for my son and myself after a recent experience I have had. My interest is in the fawn doberman the blue and silver fawn seem to have caught my attention for this type of dog. Probably because my love of my Wiems. The need is a very specific one in which the temperament of these two types of dog have also caught my attention. Also though they do not use Wiemaraners for PPD dogs typically. I am not sure if they have bred them with Dobermans before. But for this specific condition it may be a good idea. I may not need to have them trained as a PPD service dog, this I am debating on because being familiar with the breed I know they may just will react if I am ever in a situation as I was just experienced. The medical condition is a specific need as stated and I feel the two breeds are a good mix in temperament Wiems have keen senses and good temperament around kids and people these dogs were bred to stay close to their owners when hunting, they are good breeds that were bred to be in the house as well as accompany their owners outside hunting they are a royal working dog class. These dogs are amazing for their heightened senes they can pick up on your needs as well as anything around you. Dobermans have a specific temperament that was bred to protect their owners they are also very well tempered around children and people. Both are great but only with a reputable breeder. I feel this combination would be great for my needs. The are different dogs breeds that are available for this however I think for me these two breeds are the best since I have such a personal history and now the breed combination well. Please contact me with information on this matter. I am capable of finding a good breeder as I have a history with AKC and the breeders…. These are truly beautiful dogs….. I feel the combination is a great for the medical condition in which I am going to be using my dog for when I get it.

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    • My mother is disabled as well with mobility issues which I feel the dog is good for as well for her. So I was thinking of her as well.

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    • Our Doberman was the Black/Tan type. We got him about 2 and he died at 13 – quite suddenly actually, We took him to the vet as he was growling at my mother which he never had done before. The vet said he was riddled with cancer and best to euthanase him. Keep him for a week – let him run and do all the things that make him happy, then bring him back. The thing about our Dobbi is we made the cardinal mistake of letting him think he was human, which made him a handful. But he is, and always will be, the dog we loved the most. He was almost human in his intelligence, and it was a sneaky intelligence to boot. He got us to do what he wanted without our even realising it. I know they are rated as the 5th most intelligent breed, but IMHO our Dobbie was simply the most intelligent dog we owned. And we have owned the famed Australian Cattle Cog whose intelligence is legendary.

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  2. We have two beautiful donors with no health conditions both albino! I feel so lucky to have my mila and midus. Now that I’ve read your comments I won’t breed them though. So sad I was really looking forward to puppies 😕

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    • You are unselfish. We love all dobes but to breed a dog who has health issues- related to colour or not, is cruel. Breed Dobermans with good temperaments and good health, or not at all. Colour shouldn’t matter to that degree that health is sacrificed. That goes for anything. To do otherwise is just plain selfish

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  3. We have two beautiful donors with no health conditions both albino! I feel so lucky to have my mila and midus. Now that I’ve read your comments I won’t breed them though. So sad I was really looking forward to puppies 😕

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  4. Hi all,

    I must say I came to this site for help and I feel as though I have found out inevitably that my pup will have issues her whole life. I have a 3 month old fawn named Duchess. While we did purchase her from a breeder (or so we thought) we have come to find out that she is very sick. Her first visit to the vet we were told she has allergies, she had a double ear infection and two types of worms. We had already fell in love with her, and she is a part of our family so we of course began treatment. She was urinating a lot more than the Golden Doodle we purchased at the same time. I went to the store and bought an at home UTI kit and tested her myself, I called the vet and after urine analysis it was confirmed. This poor puppy has already been through so much and I truly believe that is was brought on by improper breeding. We are to blame for not doing research prior to getting her. But I cannot feel anything other than grateful, because I feel as though we have rescued her. Who knows what condition she would have been in had we not come along. I am sad to know that it is highly likely she will not live as long as some of your dobies. I will do all that I can to keep her healthy and enjoy her life, but I encourage anyone who wants to get a Doberman to do the research not on just the breed but also the breeders.

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      • Hi Sasse,

        Just an update Duchess turned 1 on October 1st and has exceeded good health. We have no issues with UTIs, no ear infections, no worms nothing! She is beautiful and such a wonderful loving dog!

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  5. Hi, I’ve been thinking about breeding Dobermans but not sure. I have a all black doby! She is my baby! We got her in the family when she was about 10 weeks old and now she is 5 years old!! She is a hand full and always wants too be by your side! Although she is such a beauty and she has no health problems I will not be breeding her. I would definitely get a black/rust female! If anyone is a breeder of Dobermans please reply with some info or things i would need to know first!! -Thanks.

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    • Unless you are familiar with and have done extensive research on all of the health issues that are in the breed today such as DCM, DVDob, VWD and hip dysplasia, I do not recommend breeding. Probably not the answer you wanted, but I know DVM’s who will not breed once a year if they cannot come as close as possible to not reproducing these health issues to further weaken the breed. My first dobe came from a first time breeder and he had both DVDob and VWD. While he lived to be 9, had I chosen to breed him, and I considered it prior to knowing he was a carrier, I would have done an injustice to the pups and everyone who acquired one. Just one opinion. Sincerely, CK

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        • Congrats. There is NO KNOWN HEALTH ISSUES WITH ALL BLACK DOBERMANS they are just rare. They just recognize them as “normal” dobermans and because they are so rare they “thought/assumes” they was from inbreeding like the albinos and fawns. How fawns and the albinos are getting so popular idk because they are the ones with all the health problems. But congrats on your all black doberman there are a few of us out here that want them to be recognized especially since all the false reports on them, and they are not from inbreeding.

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  6. Hi, my name is Calin Scridon and I went to the site to see the material and the comments. I would have wanted male white doberman and female from different nests, in Europe I can not find. Unfortunately I am from Romania and I think it would cost me a lot more as it is also a great distance. As a small comment, white is beautiful, in addition to being a soul and as we want them, they accept us as we are.

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    • I know white dobermann breeders in France they are on FB, Dobermann blanc de France et Les Diamants de la nuit,
      But i would not recommand to buy a white. They are partial albino and not should be bread

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    • Although I’m sure your dobie is beautiful, white and has a wonderful disposition, that’s not the point. The point that the author was making was that they are partially albino and albinism comes with health problems. And just because your white dobie may not have any problems, that doesn’t mean that his or her pups won’t have any problems. All responsible breeders should have the goal of breeding to better the breed, not just to breed because you like the color! That’s the main goal of AKC, UKC, CKC and any other kennel clubs. Anyone who wants to be a breeder should want to breed for the betterment, not to make money or get a color that’s proven to not be good for the breed! There are far too many missbread dogs that are in shelters and euthanized because someone wasn’t being responsible!

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    • You clearly mistook the information in the article that they are sick animals and shouldn’t be bred.

      I pray the universe keeps you from committing such a selfish act.

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  7. You have no idea what your talking about regarding White Dobermans. They are NOT albino because the gene masks the color. Albinos do NOT have a color gene. Secondly White dobermans are more healthy than the fawn and blues. Do your research and stop trying to bad mouth the white dobies.

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    • Christine – your unhinged rabid defensive response suggests you likely own a white “dobie” and feel hurt by those facts presented. Hate to tell you though, they are just that – FACTS. all reputable sources of info on the white, INCLUDING THE AKC, say the same thing – highly prone to genetic defects. anyone with as much as a passing knowledge of animal genetics knows albinism (yes, that IS what gives it the white coat) renders ANY breed susceptible to genetic issues. Your going off on the author of this site does nothing to change that.

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      • YOU ARE RIGHT, PEOPLE GET BUTT HURT OVER FACTS WHEN IF THEY DID THE RESEARCH THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE FACT FRON FICTION

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        • Ya white blue and fawn should never be purposly bred… Every since american breeders got there hands on a dobermann they have ruined the breed.. Now we have dilluted colors, whites, everyone of these types are prine to skin issues at the very least. Also they are small puney and frail in body type and just couldnt prefrom protection duties very well because ther bodies arnt built for the extreme exersizes and longevity of the protection sports or work that military or police use, there ligiments and muscle tissue and joints wouldnt hold up.. They have no body weight to bring down a fighting man, nor do they have the rihht tempermant and courage to do so . only bred to look americanized for the show.. And nothing like what they wer origanly bred for. American breeders should all be ashamed of there product. Its all about the buck and nothing to do with bettering the breed as a whole. Do you history and know why a doberman was ever created then ask urself will my dog do this.. And even if you think your dog will it probaly wont and if it did dit would probably get harmfully injured.. But dont worry cuz the american doberman is not alone. Why us americans have single handedly ruined or waterd down any good dogs they ever touched, do some reading and you will have to agree.. We bring dogs in this country and brred them until they cannot do what it was intended to do we make them all couch potatoes show dogs and change the way they are suposed to look so much they just couldnt to a job even if they wanted to. Look at american rotts and ero rotts same for german shepards. Look at what we did to the. English bulldog. it just goes on and on and so could i but im done. This statement is not intended to make you mad. Or put you down its just so people get a real clue and stop putting money into bad breeding. And breed twards the dogs origanal purpose and utilize those skills and abilities and make your dog the best it can be with a job and a life purpose that fufills its dna its urgess to do something..

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          • I couldn’t read your whole rant cuz I got bored …but my blue weighs 140 so your statement that they are small is false. I’ve seen others similarly sized.

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            • Your dobe at 140 lbs is either overweight or oversize. The correct weight for a male is approx 80-90 lbs. Female around 65-70 lbs. Over the last 15 yrs it has become common to see oversize dobes (height as well as weight). Oversize in both the US and in Europe. I have yet to see them capable of working well in what they originally were bred for (protection).
              BTW, two large studies on cardio (one in the US and one in Europe) have shown that 60 per cent of dobes suffer from the disorder. Health issues are rampant in dobes. And that is across all colours.

            • Agree! We have had white dobie who had many health problems such as Addison’s disease, fear biter,Couldn’t see…and Blue dobie who was the most beautiful boy I’ve ever seen. Currently have a red dobie who is the wildest, most hard to train girl ever! They’re all so different it’s really hard to say it’s all or nothing on these sweet animals.

            • This is so good to hear. My daughters female black and brown, and male black and brown got together cause one of the children let them make outside when the female was outside. Anyway they tried so hard to keep them apart until they were ready to breed them later on. The puppies are black and brown except for a blue one and a red/rust ones. I’m getting the Blue and red ones. They are absolutely beautiful!

          • Please learn proper grammar. I also became very bored reading your snarky reply. Do you live in America? I think not.. after reading as much of your snarkiness that I could stomach. I attained a blue Dobie at 1 year of age from a rescue and she’s in great health and has no skin issues and is very muscular, agile and athletic as other Dobermans and also very protective of her family including other household pets. So please before you make some uneducated snarky reply again… please refrain from your own ignorance!

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            • I do agree, I actually own a beautiful WL black german shepherd from east Germany. I am grateful he is as the breed was intended. I’m very lucky as many are not. I resently found a Doberman pup for a friend a little red bitch. I made sure she was European lines and not American. I would have to agree there is no comparison. As I told them you do not want an American Doberman. You just have to compare the two. Much like the german shepherd the majority couldn’t handle a real days work and to preform the tasks they were bred for. It’s very sad and unfortunately very true. My friends are very happy with their new family member, she’s beautiful.

          • Wow!!
            I live in the UK and was wondering why I’ve never seen a blue or fawn dobi.
            Thankful of it!
            I guess it’s a yanky thing😢

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        • Fact is all Doberman are awsome. I have a fawn and he’s the best thing in my life. I love him so much. Smart and understanding. Alert. And yes he is vicious. But as long as you love your own Doberman that’s what counts. Cause I promise not everyone loves your children. As long as you do,that’s all that matters.

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      • I am from Kenya and I have a black with brown colour dobberman it’s healthy and good….but am asking if I do feed it at night is recommended for guard dogs …secondly should I shorten the tail or leave it with its tail…thankyou

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        • No tail cutting should be done after and only by vet. And I think most owners feed twice a day, in morning and evening or if your dog looks skinny.

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          • Our red dobie that is 8 months now…he…eats 3 meals a day. Have talked with the breeder and the vet and they say it’s fine to feed him that much for now bc he’s a very energetic puppy and is growing. We are just weening him off the noon meal little bit at a time each day.

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        • Tails should be docked in the first 3days after the dog is born. Otherwise it is a very serious amputation surgery after that time. The tails should have been docked by the breeder.

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      • Exactly!! Thank You!! I have previously had 4dobies and one of them was born deformed. His left front leg had all the parts it was supposed to but in a mixed up order! After 2 surgeries to try to give him the best future, the leg didn’t grow as long as his other 3! But he adapted just fine and even learned to lift his leg to pee(with our entire family cheering for him, LOL!) But anyways, throughout his 14yrs I learned alot about genetics in Dobermans. It aggravates me when people say things like that about breeding for the WRONG reasons! Breeding her white dobie would be just as wrong as I would have been, if I had bread my”slightly less than perfect”dobie! I think that when these genetically imperfect dogs are born they should not be allowed to have AKC registration and MUST be spayed or neutered or be HEAVILY fined!

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    • I adopted a white Doberman who is 5 year old and I also own a Black and Tan Doberman I brought home form a wonderful breeder. My white Doberman is both death and blind but very sweet. It’s sad to watch her sometimes bumping into thing but I couldn’t imagine leaving her in a shelter so I brought her home. This color shouldn’t be breed. It’s to sad.

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      • Thank you , so sad anyone would want to encourage breeding white Dobermans, knowing the health problems they will have to endure.

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    • He distinctly said Sheba was an albino, the original one. Though I imagine Albino and partial albino dobermans popped up all throughout its history.

      He explained coherently, the albino thing.might you should reread the article with peace in your heart for clarity’s sake.

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      • Don’t think the albino doberman just popped up throughout history the dog hasn’t even been around for 200 years yet and not only that the dog was albino due to being inbred🧐

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    • I totally agree. My oldest Cream/white is almost 12. She has never had an issue in health her whole life. She sees the vet for her yearly stuff. The only surgery she has ever had was her spay. Just had her ECG and all done at just past 11 and still everything perfect. And she does not look her age. Back in the beginning, Ayla was tested for pigment. She had light brown pigment to her hair, Light pigment to her skin and blue eyes. According to Dr.S., An albino has no pigment to hair, skin, eyes or mucous membrane. Hence they are not a true Albino. People that badmouth them most have never seen one, and know nothing about them. And if they actually do their research the White Doberman has been around from the beginning. It is just that Padula was the first one anyone tried to register. This is proved by a book written back in 1929 and one in 1939 by two different authorities on the breed. They were called straw color, yellow and dirty. And it was stated that they were not the desired color only because they could be seen at night with them being white. My second oldest Cream/white is going on 11. She has had 2 small lumps removed over the years. Both benign. And the coats and health on all my Cream/white Dobermans have been excellent. Love them for the world. Wish the health on my Black/rust dogs over the years were as good as my Cream/white.

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      • I think its hilarious that everyone continues to blame the Cream/white Doberman on inbreeding . When in all reality if you actually look at some if your show / working line ” well bred ” lines per say …they are severely ” inbreed ” some of them in extremely close relation . Also many lines actually carry the Z- factor gene . But do not carry the Z mark on their paperwork. Either due to crafty paper work practices or AKC ” slip ups ” . So that inbreeding excuse everyone makes as a scare tactic really doesn’t fly if you do your research .

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    • You didn’t read the authors information well. She clearly stated they are a “partial albino”
      The Doberman club of America discourages breeding them and they are disqualified from the show ring. Which means they are not within the AKC breed standard. The goal in breeding is to better each individual breed. Health being the most important factor.

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    • Amen to that. The writer does not anything about white doberman. We have a rescue white female. She has not health or behavior issues. We do limit her time in the sun as you would with any fair skin mammals, like me. I am fair skin and burn easy.

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    • We have a Fawn Dobie that descended from a white dobie. Her Mom was white and dad was black/tan. She has been the largest and sweetest dobie we have ever owned. We have had various dobies since 1991. The only issue we have had with her skin is that we have to feed her a grain free salmon based food to increase her Omega intakes. This works really well for their skin.

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    • Well then what your saying is Veterinarians don’t know what you’re talking about stop playing doctor fool. I believe you have them and you want to get rid of them

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    • I think we have done the research as well as this page itself has condoned the breeding of white Dobermans. Maybe you should be the one doing more research.

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    • I agree. My grandmother had white and cream dobermans and she bread them. People would come a far away to get one of her dogs. Not one pup out of all of their litters had one issue. I’ll never forget them.

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  8. Oh dear,
    Glad I came to this site. Don’t know how, but here I am.
    I am searching high and low for an ADULT Doberman. Puppies are easy to find, but not so adult Dobermans. We are in touch with rescues, petfinder and have advertised.
    We have recently lost our Dobie. This is our background.
    My husband and I are both retired. We are experienced Doberman owners. We are 68 and 72 and are no longer up to raising a rambunctious pup. A puppy has more physical needs than the average retieree can satisfy. Over the years we have had three Doberman girls. Our Emma and Bella were each 1 year old rescues within the family because of first health problems and later job transfer of the original owner. At age 10 Emma had a severe stroke. We nursed her for 2 months and then gave in to euthanize her. In 2018 Bella past away in my arms at age 8 of a heart attack. In Sep 2018 we adopted Katie. She was rehomed due to biting a child in the family. Katie at that point was 5 years old. She had experienced some hard blows in her life, starting at birth. After evaluating Katie, her owners and the circumstances of the biting, we did not hesitate adopting her. She had limitations, but always gave clear signals, what she was comfortable with. She already had beautiful manners, we just added a calm environment and patience to her life, which made her the perfect companion for us. All love on four paws. Sadly, after 6 beautiful months with our girl she died in my arms of a stroke.
    This is where we are today. Devastated, hurting, searching to find yet another Dobie for us. We are not trying to replace Katie, that would not be possible. We dearly loved all of our girls, their different temperaments and personalities. They were individuals but at the same time each of them had the endearing ways of the Doberman breed.
    Another Dobie for us, please. Please help if you can.

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    • Marga……what state are you in? I got my last two from Doberman Rescue League which is in south florida and my first from Doberman Rescue of the Triad which is in North Carolina. I recommend both of them and if your are close to either I can give you a contact person. Dobie Ranch Rescue and Doberman rescue of Lake Placid are also two good rescues. Both of the latter are in Florida……lots of luck in your search.

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      • Thank you for your post. I made a broadcast post that we have adopted a 7 month old. Against all wisdom we have a puppy at hand. Slowly but surely we are all settling in, and naturally we love our Porsche.

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      • Sorry this is late, did not mean to ignore you. We ate in Huntsville, AL. In the meanwhile we have adopted a 7 month old dobie girl. Yup, did not think it wise to have a pup, but then life happens. We love our Porsche, but not all is well that looks well. Turns out she has a heart murmur. Think I will be posting for advice as soon as we know more.

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    • Thank u so much for your response. I am familiar with the Triad rescue and i am approved by them. Think I talked to Tabetha. Very nice. In the meanwhile we put aside all our reservation about getting a puppy. As I type this, we are in a Olcaa FL hotel waiting for the arrival of our dobie #4. Met her yesterday. She is 7 month old and so beautiful. Wish us luck!

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    • Marge
      I’m so happy you found your new girl..
      I’m currently in contact with a man in West Virginia who listed his 5 year old dobe on Craigslist for free.. Male..
      Whe I read your post I thought it was a match made in heaven then I read on…
      Lol
      He’s taking “Duke” to the local animal shelter tomorrow and I’m super sad to see that happen… So I’ll be going down to meet him (Duke) on Thursday… Poor Duke has always been an outside dog, no training, not housebroken and the list goes on… And intact on top of all that! I feel he needs a chance at a much better life!!!
      At this point I’m not planning on keeping him but rather finding him a home best suited for him…
      I have a dobe rescue about 4.5 years old male myself red who I’m not sure would approve of a sibling… Or if Duke would approve… I’m so glad you found the one…
      Brenda

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      • How is Duke? Were u able to do anything for him. Bless u for trying anyway. Our girl Porsche is a love bug.?Too much puppy for us (as we well knew when we decided on her), but we are all learning to adapt. But, but, but, hesitate to put this into words, like words would make it „more real“. During spaying the vet discovered a heart murmur in Porsche. Now we are waiting for a Holter Test appointment. Scared.

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        • Hey Marga, we find ourselves in your shoes. Recently lost our beloved 12 year old – stroke and cardiac arrest and we have been so very devastated. We are searching the rescues, not an easy task – they all have their own “qualifications to adopt”. We are experienced owners – have had two, and both our sons have dobermans in their households. I’m sorry your new puppy has a heart murmur!! We are also in Alabama – near Bham. Found a rescue in Enterprise, Alabama that we are currently in touch with. I’m like you – not wanting a puppy, but a 2-4 year old. We are in our 60’s. What do you do for a dog with a heart murmur?

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          • Hello Sharon, we finally had our appointment with a cardiac veterinarian. All our worries were put to rest. Porsche had an echocardiogram and her heart murmur was determined to be less than minor. Follow up will be in 2020, but until then no meds nor restrictions are prescribed. We are so relieved. Had the test shown anything suspicious, the next step would have been a holtor test. The echocardiogram was $463. Pricy, but it was worth our peace of mind.

            I hope you found yourself another Doberman love.

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      • Thanks for yr post. We are in Huntsville, AL. California is far away. In the meanwhile we have adopted a 7 months old dobie girl. Right, exactly what we did not want, a puppy. We love our Porsche and are learning to adapt. All 3 of us.

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      • I recently purchased a blue Doberman from a breeder. I know I should have done my research first but I was told that she was gray. Once I took her to my vet, he notified me of the skin issues. Im somewhat discouraged because she’s such a sweet girl and I love her already. Any advice? Has anyone experienced the skin issues? How common is it? Thanks so much!

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        • My name is Dawn Velez. I had a Blue Doberman. Her name was Blue. She, as well had a skin issue. My vet at the time gave me something to bath Blue in. Her skin got better.
          Blue lived a very long life..Very healthy dog..I’m not sure exactly, what the name of the lotion was. But it did the trick.
          Your Doberman will be fine. I use to breed Dobermans.
          Blue was a Beautiful dog. Her mother Aries-color-Black/Rust. I’m now looking for another Doberman. I just love them….

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    • If you are on Facebook I run a doberman re home and rescue group. While we’re not actually a rescue we do have rescues in our group who post available dobies and we have people who post their dobies that need to be re homed. We post dogs in the usa and canada. Feel free to join my group Doberman ReHome and Rescues

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    • Good morning. I read your stories about your three Dobermans. My heart goes out to you both. I have a great breeder in Camp Verde, AZ. In fact, we were there yesterday as I purchased another Doberman. A red female puppy this time. My black & rust male Doberman is wonderful. He will be 4 in September. The temperament for these dogs are great. Every where I go with Merlin , I am complimented on his manners, temperament, and coat. He’s Regal. I’m not certain where you are located. I can always refer you to my breeder. These are family Dobermans. Some have went on to shows.

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        • Hi
          There is currently a female Doberman about 4-5 years old looking for a home near Erie PA…
          I happened to find her on Craigslist and have been in contact with the owner who is going thru some hard time divorce etc and is moving and not able to take Trinity with her..
          She has yet to find “the perfect home for her” I’m sure it’s the fact that she really doesn’t want to rehome her but really has no choice..
          I’ve done my best to help but haven’t had much luck.
          I was hoping someone knows or can open their heart to this girl..
          Brenda

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  9. Dobermans have owned me for over 40 years , I do my own training and it is a pleasure to involve your self with these fine and very smart dogs. I now have a black and tan female and a red male both 3 years old that I adopted. Most people really don’t know how intelligent Doberman’s are , they learn so fast that it is sometime frighten. They don’t call them Velcro dogs for nothing , in the 40 or so years Doberman’s have owned me I have never went to the bathroom alone , they are always at my side. Not every one can own a Doberman , as we know dogs run in packs and there is always a leader of the pack , so you have to be the leader of your pack. Protection come automatic , you just have to learn to control it . last but not least Doberman’s have one flaw THEY DON’T LIVE FOREVER.

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    • I had a fantastic black & tan Doberman bitch for thirteen years ! Cleo went eeverywhere with me ? She excepted my wife at 2 years old, my children when they came along when she was six with my daughters and eight for my son. Both children learnt to walk by grabbing two fists full of Cleo and pulled themselves up? Cleo would walk at my heal everywhere without a lead but put even just a short lead on her and she pulled slightly as if it was a slight in someway ? When Becky started to talk her first word was Clee her word for Cleo as Becky got to four years old we gave in and let her hold Cleo’s lead as she had been asking from about two years of age ? All I would say is Cleo Becky’s got you now and she would not pull. Cleo would take smaller steps and have her eye on Becky constantly. Cleo.guarded the children from day one and would stop my wife from crossing any road diagonally it was 90 degrees or Cleo would lean on the pram or pushchair so my wife had to follow Cleo’s wishes! Cleo spoilt me because of her oober intelligence so went for a Weimaraner next Emma was bright but no Cleo! I have down sized to a beagle called Milo bright when it suits him Emma lived for 11. Years, Milo is 4 and not a day goes by that I don’t think of Cleo! My Grandparents brought me up and as a child we had a German Shepherds called Sally who was farm stock and lived to be 17 and my grandad said no matter how many dogs you have there will be one that stands out head and shoulders above all the others for me it was Cleo! I just wish that humans would stop trying to breed dogs for what they think they should be and spoil the breeds! Always liked working dogs because they are bread to do jobs not looks I could go on to list the breeds that have been ruined but any dog lover knows what they are Thanks for reading about my memories of well loved four legged friends!
      Steve H

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      • Your Cleo sounds like our Athana – who was an exceptional dog. We lost her just a month ago – at age 12.5. Heartbroken, and beginning the search for another. Thanks for sharing your story about your sweet girl.

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      • Steve,
        We also had a Doberman named Cleo who was hands down the most amazing dog. Your grandad was correct about that “one Dog” our was Cleo. We now have a 1 yr old Red female Jordan and we will soon be getting a female red puppy Reagan. Jordan is a great dog but Cleo will always be that One special dog.

        Kelly

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  10. I had a red king dobie for several years, I took him to the local petsmart for trading classes. The instructor said she used to raise dobies and my boy fit the mold perfectly. A little stubborn and head strong, but quick to pick up new things. That’s when she gave me the bad news. I wasn’t training him, he was trying to train me! lol!!
    We figured out how to get him to do what I wanted but it took some work. Dobies do demand your attention and companionship, but you can’t find a more loyal dog anywhere. With the exception of running across the field to see Grandma if she was outside. He would turn himself inside out for one of Grandmas oatmeal cookies.
    A lady friend of mine brought her three kids over while we were living together ages 1 1/2 3 1/2 and 4 1/2. They owned him in an instant. I’d kept him used to kids by taking him back to my friends I got him from. I knew he would be good when he was tussling with his brother and my Buddy’s 18 month old nephew walked right up to them and biffed them both on the nose and backed them into a corner!! They wanted nothing to do with that! Boy did they whine!
    Anyway, if the kids were there Nobody was getting near them. But he was gentle as could be around them.
    As far as I’m concerned they are the best all around breed you can get. Loyal, loving, always wanting to please, and get along with other animals too. Well, except for those pesky squirrels. And the long haired dachshund at the pet store. He was afraid of her and almost pulled my shoulder out trying to get away from her. She just wanted to sniff noses and play. lol

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  11. I would also like to add that ‘the leading’ mfr of dog food is and has been a problem for us, having lost several dogs to cancer. I met a lady who worked in their processing plant and she told me what I was curious about in terms of what is in the dog food. She said they take used cooking oil and add it to the dog food in their factories. I then went to several restaurants and asked what could be in their used cooking oil vats prior to pick up to go to the dog food factories. The answer, “Anything and everything!” From cleaning solvents to toxins such as rat poison. With my present Doberman Ive never fed this ‘leading brand’. He has no signs of cancer. I believe this is a huge factor. Also we treat infections with MESOSILVER. It is microscopic silver particles in water. It saved my life TWICE! Once from the killer STAPH I got in the hospital during an appendix event. The other from Lyme Disease. Both times I had been down and treated for as long as three months and the MESOSILVER CURED ME IN TWO WEEKS! The germs cannot ever develop an immunity as they can with antibiotics because of the way it works. It cuts their guts apart when the hydrate! You can use it externally on wounds or internally as well. For small dogs with internal infections I would use about 1/4 oz twice a day for 10 days, and up to 1/2 oz twice a day for 10 days. It was the ‘antibiotic’ of choice in a few countries for 2000 years b4 penicillin and then it was all but forgotten about. I believe those ‘batteries’ that have been discovered from days of old, using vinegar, were possibly used for making colloidal silver! Do not attempt to make it yourself! The MESOSILVER brand is the only one I can recommend because it is the only one Ive ever used. My .25 horse had an infection on the bottom of his hoof from having stepped on something. The vet treated it for two weeks with no results. A pad with MESOSILVER taped to his foot and leg cured it in three days! When we took the bandage off to dress the wound again, it was gone!

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    • Hi Samuel,
      You are soooo right!! And the oil is only one of the horrible things in their food. Did you know that the “roadkill” that is collected from city and county streets is also in it?
      I work for a Holistic Vet that created an incredible line of Cat and Dog food…if you’re interested, I would love to set you up with some free samples and tell you more about it. One of my customers told me about a documentary on Netflix called “Petfooled”. Check it out! Do NOT watch it with young children!!!! MysticPink, or anyone else that may be having trouble with allergies, gas, itching, hives, rashes, bad breath, picky eaters….please feel free to contact me, as well:)

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      • I just lost my best friend to pheochromocytom had him for almost 9 years. It
        was a shock and has been a difficult loss. I got him from a champion breeder and was hoping for a lot longer life with him. What kind of food do you recommend. I will eventually get another dobie but I need to get past loosing Galileo.

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        • My heart goes out to you and all who have had to deal with the lost of a good dog. Truly man & women best friend. Dobermans are forever loyal and will always stay by your side. I lost my best friend 2 and a half years ago. His name was DINO. He was only 4 and a half years when cancer disabled him. I could not bear to watch my buddy hurt. I would not amputate his leg. I gave him back to the Lord in compassion for my love for him. I remain devastated to this day. I now have a red Doberman, named Primo. He is a great dog and slowly filling DINO’s paw prints. I knew he would naturally. Love your dog no matter what his/ her color is. They love you!

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  12. Ive owned Dobermans over the years. Having been familiar with SDS or sudden death syndrome, and as a researcher I have been excited to have figured out a potential solution to SDS. It seems the Doberman breed has a very strong heart. Ive seen mine run circles around other breeds here like the Labs. So the fact hearts stop instantly and the dog dies just didnt make any sense to me. Over time I reckoned that there is a possibility the Dobermans either dont process or need more potassium! Potassium is the link between the brain and all the organs not just in dogs but in people as well. So my wonderful Doberman has been on a very light dose of potassium. At age 13, which is several years older than so many who die of SDS, he is looking quite good and still out running about a mile a day! I started with a potassium tab that you can get at almost any store. I would break in half and give him twice a week in a cracker with peanut butter. But I surmised that a low dosage daily would be better. I have a one gallon automatic waterer. I take four tabs and use a mortor and pestle to grind to powder. Mixing this with his water in the large container, he gets small dosages throughout the day. Im hopeful this discovery leads to many more years for our beloved Dobermans!

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  13. I have a white doberman that I adopted from a local, reputable, dobie rescue – Second Chance Dobes. He’s the sweetest dog ever! He’s my 90lb lap dog. He loves everyone, and everyone who meets him falls in love. Having said that, his eye sight is not perfect. He closes his eyes outside when the sun is out, and he can’t see through the slider (actually ran into the closed slider once) . He’s also had three skin cancer spots removed as well – one from each lower eyelid, and one from his elbow. He’s also had various moles all over his back/body that my vet and I monitor for skin cancer.
    He’s now 10 years old, and has fatty cysts all over him. They’re doing no harm though.

    So, yes, he’s required a bunch of extra care.

    And I love him insanely!

    I’m completely in love with the breed.

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    • Joanne, I rescued a White Dobie about a year and a half ago and in December had a tumor removed from his eyelid and a few from his lip that were cancer. I have been a little crazy since as he is like yours, just as friendly and loving as can be and a little velcro. My question is how long ago did you have your dobe’s skin cancer removed, I’m just looking for some possitive info as I can’t afford the suggested treatment and we are just going to ride it out as long as we can and hoping for the best. Doctors say it is very possible that nothing has spread and the treatment really isn’t going to add that much time for the cost and has no real guarantee. Love my buddy to death so thanks for any info.

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  14. I rescued a Fawn from a humane society in Washington State in 2011. 7 yrs later, my baby girl is still a goofball! She is the epitome of a “velcro” dobie; thus, VERY much being a mama’s girl! (I canNOT be out of her sight!) She has 2 small dogs as “pack-mates”, so she doesn’t quite realize her own strength or size. Seeing that only 6% of people voted for the fawn makes me sad. She’s beautiful, smart, and a very interesting colour. Every time she and I go walking, I get compliments about her colour and how beautiful she is! I was always afraid of dobies when I was younger, but they truly are a loving and magnificent breed.

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    • Wow, great to hear. I am looking at an Isabella (Fawn). I want a Dobie but don’t want the hassle with home owners insurance. Think I can pass him off as a
      Weimie ?:)

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      • @DJ Yes. I passed my Fawn off as a Weimie for most of his 13 years. In the last year I registered him as ESA, that way I never had to deal with apartments telling me they wont renew my lease bc they believe my dog is a Doberman.

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  15. To each his own on color, if it floats your boat and you love that guy or gal go for it. I’ve had Dobies for over 40 years! Fantastic dogs. I’ve had German lineage Black and Rust Dobe’s (larger more stout and a bit calmer), American bred Black and Tan and my favorite an American Red (brown and rust). I love the comments about the White Dobe and that they have great personalities and temperament and frankly believe that you could have a little different personality from a White Dobe just because of the color (I have my flame suit on so let the comments rip). Before I bought our current Red Male, the breeder asked what I was looking for, I said I was a little partial to a Red Male never having owned a Red before. I wanted one that was very easy going, a little less territorial and on edge most of the time, because we had a lot of kids in and out of our home. The breeder asked had I ever heard of RMS, nope I said, she said what you explained is Red Male Syndrome…she said many poopoo the term, but she said of all the Dobe breeding they’d done over three or four decades they noticed their Red Males were pretty easy going, a little goofy, not as territorial as most bitches, but when the rubber met the road they would step up and protect. I was very intrigued. Well we got a Red Male from her and he’s been amazing for the last 10 1/2 years. Like every Dobe, he’s happiest when with his family (me, my wife, our son, daughter and granddaughter). He cannot wait to run down stair to greet us when any of us come home, and it’s delightful to see his gentle loving nature knowing exactly where our three year old granddaughters face will be when she opens the door, so he can give her a little kiss of acknowledgement on the cheek. Everyone that meets him, wants him. We’ve got nothing but good to say about him. As far as someone disposing of a White Dobe, that wrong. If the breeder wants to limit the White, just do add a no breed clause to a buyer contract and have the buyer sign,but don’t dispose of that puppy, I’m sure there’s a great home out there for him or her.

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    • I have a white female Doberman and she is the best dog in the world she is good with my kids and has no health problems at all she’s fun and loving and gets along with any dog she even loves the cat next door and her best friend is a one year old pit named Chico I love all Dobermans they are the best dogs and loyal to there most inner core

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  16. We just adopted a Red Doberman coming up on her 5th birthday.
    Anyone able to recommend a reputable book, or online site?
    Want to make sure we do right by her, and I’m realizing we know a lot less than I thought we did.
    Thanks!

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    • I would love to help you we had our Coco a red Dobe from 8 wks till 13 yrs when she had a heart attack. It was so horrible, but she was always such a love bug and anyone that met her loved and adored our dobe. I so miss her, no pup will ever replace her in my heart. I have had a black and tan, and then Coco, our Red. Maybe next might be another color like a Blue. We have tried adopting from rescues, which did not work, as they have issues due to abuse. So sad. I had one that absolutely refused to use the try the dog door, and when he attempt to bite me, after multiple treats of encouragement, I just thought, the last thing I could have is having my children bitten.

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  17. I have a red and a blue they are amazing with my children. We have had dobermans for 20 yrs . our first family dog was a red he grew up with my 3 boys he was a loyal campaign and friend to them. The only precaution i would give is that they tend to be very protective over their pack mates (my children) i never had any bitting issues but a stranger can find then very intimidating. Personally I’m o.k. with that.

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  18. All Dobermans can be gentle with kids if raised the correct way. They are very protective and loyal. I have a male Isabella or fawn that has so much personality. He does things that make me laugh all of the time. He loves the nieghborhood kids and all of the visitors that come into the house but he is always on guard when strangers come around. He does have a barking problem and absolutely hates the squirrels that tease him. I have owned numerous breeds all of my life and he is by far the smartest , funniest , and loyal dog of them all. I love him to pieces.

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    • As an owner of Dobermans for over 40 years, my opinion is that how you raise, socialize and train a Doberman, or any dog, is so much more important than its color. All of our Dobes have been raised and exposed to children (many small children as part of their socialization) and have done great. Just remember to ALWAYS monitor children with dogs. Children can be unknowingly mean to a dog and a dog does have a right to leave the area or protect itself it it is being abused.

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    • I have had three remake black and rust. When my last child was born you would have thought he was her puppy. She lay in the floor next to him and I would catch her cleaning his face. She would come and take my hand gently and lead me to him if he was wet or had soiled his diaper. My friend said she expected to see her carrying him down the hall to me to take care of what ever he might need at the time.
      When he started to try to walk she was right there to make sure he didn’t fall wrong or to hard.
      She was our next to last Doberman and miss all of them so much.
      My first Black and Tan female won my mother over after the first day. Mom kept saying that she didn’t like Dobermans and Chantelle would sit next to her and lay her head on her lap looking up at her. Mom kept telling her she didn’t like her. Chantelle would push her nose under her hand and flip it to land on her head. This lasted all day as we sit outside. All my dogs have been indoor dogs so by dark mom was holding the door open for her to go in.
      My opinion is that all Dobermans are smart gentle protectors. I am trying my childhood breed of German Shepards now and find myself comparing them. I have to say that I haven’t found many things different between the two breeds except the hair. I was considering getting a Doberman as a second large breed. But it will be years down the road. I have a mix of Minature Pincher and a West Highland Terrier as well as the German Shepherd. My Westie wanted to be second in command and over stepped her place so now I can’t let the Shepherd and Westie together. My Shepherd has no problems with my Mini Pin.
      So let my story short my Dobermans have been great with all ages and protects to the death.

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    • red dobies are very nice to kids I have one named penny oh and I’m a kid btw anyways penny is so sweet she always greats people with a smile and she is always nice

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  19. I just wanted to say that it’s a shame that people give ALBINO Dobermans such a bad rap….I have had Dobermans since 1987 and they are GREAT companions…before about 35 years ago I saw a white doberman and other exotic animals that were in the news from being taken from a home in Eastwood,NY…some asshole was arrested for having all these animals that he didn’t have licenses for…when I saw the Albino in the news I wanted to adopt him and very sad to say that when I called the SPCA told me that he was unadoptable..I asked why and they said because his owner would take a tazer to the dog and because of that they had to put him down…I was so angry that an innocent dog was treated that way…..last year I found my Albino and he is GREAT….so loveable, playful and and just amazing couldn’t ask for a more loving dog….People need to stop judging dobermans and dogs in general…its not the breed of the dog its how you raise/train the dog…you as an owner are what you make your dog to be just like a child…your actions mold the dog……keep your heart open to all dogs ALBINOS too

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    • No one has less affection for a white doberman, they’re just pointing out serious genetic and personality issues that are likely when they are white. Never hurts to have all the facts. Anyone who truly cares about the breed should not want to shut down discussions of genetic facts as proven by science – not emotion. Thanks!

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  20. I have two Doberman’s both female a red/rust and white/cream. I have to disagree about additional health problems with the white/cream. My red/rust has a bladder issue and is on daily Proin. Other than that and some skin issues (common) she is beautiful and healthy. My white/cream girl is perfectly healthy. She has a perfect Doberman physique and is unbelievably sweet and kind. The two girls together are amazing. I will say that a lot of white ones end up out there for rescue or adoption. Not sure if it is the novelty of the color that makes people want them and then reality sets in – Doberman’s are not low maintenance dogs by any stretch. I will say the bad press about white/cream does not help. I wish people would not perpetuate poor information.

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  21. Hi, this is a great post, even after so much time. I recently purchased a melanistic all black doberman from a reputable breeder and in conversation with her about the different colors of dobermans, she said that the cream ones are not albino at all. She has several very healthy cream ones and after having one lab-tested the results came back with no classification of albino whatsoever. These cream, or as some say white ones, were first documented in the 1920’s as being a ‘dirty or apricot’ color. I started to use the term cream in identifying them as well because, let’s face it, they are a cream color and not white or albino.

    I think all dobermans are very beautiful and after I learned they come in so many colors I became very interested in the melanistic black. I’ve been studying this breed for about 6 years now and I continue to learn so much. Thank you for all your great comments.

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  22. My daughter has a 1 yr old purebred Red Doberman/German Shepherd and he is a doll. He got all the best traits of each breed but especially the goofy tendencies Dobies can have. He has never met a stranger and loves kids. I have seen him go up to a child that was fussy and nuzzle them to make them happy (with the parent’s permission). His appearance is that of a GS trapped in a Dobie body. He has all the red & tan Dobie markings and body style but the hair texture, ears and tail of a GS. Completely gorgeous and I have never seen another like him. Yes, he requires a lot of exercise but the entire family is spoiled by his great temperament. He is crate trained for while she is at work and he loves to go for rides and hikes. He just seems like an old soul with a great sense of humor and there are times when we all know that he is the one training us! With the right training and socializing, any dog can be a perfect fit. Do your research.

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  23. There was a white Doberman at the humane society in my town the last time I went. He had behavioral problems and absolutely hated men for some reason. He was barking the whole time and immediately started growling at my dad when we walked past his pen. When my dad walked away, my mom firmly but calmly told him to cut that barking out, and he stopped barking, sat down and wagged his little tail at her. The people at the shelter wanted her to adopt him, but they couldn’t because he needed to go to a female only home. They guessed he had been abused by a man before, which is really sad. I had never seen a white Doberman before, so I wanted to look them up. He looked kind of like a ghost dog. I hope they’ve found him a good home by now.

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  24. My Granddaughter, bought a red, an American bred. Then she bought a black and rust European bred puppy from a totally different breeder. They had a rainbow litter of 1 black, 2 reds, 1 fawn, and two white twins( sadly one of the twins were still born.) I have the white, she kept the fawn and sold the other pups. At the time I took the white because I knew that she would be spayed because I’m not in the dog breeding business. My white is now 6 months old and I couldn’t be happier with her in all regards. I don’t think all the voodoo science about the whites are real. My pup is a normal 6 month old Dobe, she visits her fawn sis all the time and is happy and healthy. Yeah, I don’t take her out in the middle of the day( we live in Florida) but I don’t go out in the middle of the day either! If I was going to go to the beach with her, I have her doggles and sun screen just like I would for my blond haired, blue eyed kids. Too much hate and misinformation going on here.

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  25. Additional advice to the owners.
    Our dobbies are as a people some more healthy, some less. To avoid serious shock for your pocket – take the pet insurance. It isn’t expensive (~ $25 for puppy, young and adult and ~ $50 for seniors per month ). Deduction is usual $100 – $200, and your reimbursement 80% of your bill. For example, when my dobby at the his last year got arthrit, my bill was some more $500, but I received back from insurance $430 in couple weeks.

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    • Hey, I was wondering if they had insurance for pets, where could I purchase the insurance? Thanks for any info.

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  26. Doesn’t matter which color has your doberman, matter is you have a doberman.
    In the past I had 2 German Shepperd, but after my first blue doberman all my family totally fall in love in this breed and couldn’t imagine our home without doberman. My first doberman was with us some more than 13 years. He had non – cropped ears , but we didn’t have any problems with it (BTW sometimes my German Shepperd had ears problem). Than I think cropped or not doberman’ ears depending only from owner and his skills to stay cropped ears – this process is long.
    Now my family is waiting for our new 3 months blue doberman. ..
    Doberman is a brilliant dog with any color and ears and if you want to have companion for you and guard for your children – take doberman.

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  27. I have a white Dobberman, he is the BEST! Puts up with everything my kids do to him, he is protective, big and strong, and gives our family unconditional love.

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  28. hello I want buy the 5 Doberman with the 5 different color can you help me to buy this puppy from the best quality and best price can you offer me the best club or if you have this puppy sale to me please help me please sent a message to me via my email:moalfez01@gmail.com

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  29. This article forgot to mention that not long ago, the “fawn” and “blue” Doberman pups were culled (Killed) at birth.

    The German, or Euro, Dobermans are produced with intentions focused on the “working/security’ dog, as intended by Louis Doberman. If you ever get a chance to see a German Bred Doberman, be sure to take a lot of photos and video, then compare it to any Dobe bred in the United States. The difference is obvious at first glance, but on careful study, you will see how much of the original Doberman Pinscher has been deleted from its current U.S. counterparts. Other than its “color points”, which immediately identify this dog as a Doberman, (or a branch of the ancient Rottweiler) the differences are so dramatic that it may need to be classified as a new breed.

    Don’t get me wrong, I am a huge fan of the American Doberman Pinscher. The two who currently share my life are the most recent of the 11 Doberman Pinschers that have graced my world from my past.
    I can’t imagine life without a Dober-girl/boy by my side.

    I do have a serious issue with destroying White Doberman pups at birth. First, As I initially stated, it hasn’t been that long ago that blue and fawn puppies were culled. Considered an undesirable gene mutation. Today, they are sought after, registered and shown (successfully).
    Although I have never personally owned a White Dobie, I have had the distinct honor of knowing four of them, very, very well.
    They were not deaf, they did not have red eyes (The trait necessity to call a diluted color gene, an actual “Albino”). None of these 4 dogs, nor the other dozen or so that I briefly met, suffered from Von Willebrands, Wobbles or any other disease, for that matter. They each had the same personality characteristics, that we all hold in such high regards as their “acceptable” colored cousins.
    In fact, one of these White Doberman Pinschers is a Police Dog.

    Rumors have encircled the White Dobies for years. Possibly started to discourage people from breeding with the intentions of producing Whites. But, if you speak with knowledgeable professionals, who hold no bias, you will hear, time after time, after time that the gene that carries the diluted white…..DOES NOT AUTOMATICALLY CARRY WEAKENED, UNHEALTHY CHARACTERISTICS….This is a fallacy.
    A Black and Rust pedigree Doberman Pinscher has the same chance of being a carrier of poor, breed-specific, genes as the White.
    Known ailments associated with the Doberman (Von Willebrand’s Disease, Wobbles, Hip-Dysplasia) come from careless breeding.
    A lot of people don’t realize, a certain amount of “in-breeding” is done all the time, with every breed of dog (or cat, horse, cow, etc…) when producing and “bettering” a specified “BREED”. The word “Inbreeding” is thrown around as if it was a curse word. Professional breeders now refer to it as “Line-Bred”. The problem happens when inexperienced people don’t invest in the tests that are necessary to find out which individuals gene pool, either should or should not be crossed, with another. Inbreeding definitely can introduce unwanted traits, as well as perpetuate them……BUT…..Line-breeding (aka Inbreeding), when done by a conscientious professional, can strenthen a breed.

    So….should people breed Doberman Pinschers for the specific purpose of producing “Whites”? In my opinion, not a good idea. The gene pool would become weak and “polluted” in a relatively short period of time. Because it is a Recessive gene, white would be bred to white to decrease the chances of the Dominant gene from producing. Because Whites are so rare, that makes for a very tiny gene pool. Very few Dobes carry the recessive white, and fewer carry the gene close enough to override and produce. (Think back on your Punit Square from Biology class)
    I do Not think it would be right to breed with the specific intentions of producing a litter of beautiful White or Cream color Dober-Babies.
    But, when it does happen….when a bitch produces 7 healthy, beautiful babies, of which one just happens to be White, that pup should not be killed. And it should have the opportunity to be registered with the AKC. Only then will its fullest potential be discovered and documented. Proving to the World, what I already know, White Dobermans are simply a rare expression of a Recessive gene that makes their coats an unusual Doberman “Color”, but every other atom of their being is Pure American Doberman Pinscher. It doesn’t get much better than that!!!

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  30. I Had a red and Blond, I Loved this dog and Was the Smartest Dog I have ever had, I will Probably buy another registered Red and Blond , or I Might try a Black and tan this time either way this Dog will have a fantastic Life, Traveling and Being Spoiled!!!

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  31. Some years ago, I met a doberman who was glossy black with bright yellow where you would normally see the rust color. He was rescued, so his ancestry was unknown. I’m sure there was some possibility that he was mixed, but he didn’t look it. He had a very nice temperament also. Great looking dog, although someone did a hack job on his ears.

    Also, a neighbor had a visitor with a beautiful blue dobie girl. First one I’ve seen.

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  32. Haha, just like it’s wrong to have RRB without the ridge, even though those one’s tend to be healthier, so pure whites or blacks shouldn’t be bred, but either just sold off or put down like the do with the RRB’s without the ridge?
    I mean, AKC and ‘purebred’ dogs are already sick and unhealthy as it is. So. You know. Yeaaaah.

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    • There’s a good reason that AKC registers white and white factor Dobermans with the letter Z in the registration number. So quality educated Doberman breeders avoid propagating them. If you believe that this is not a good practice, then maybe you should educate yourself about WHY there is a reason it is frowned upon. And why would you say AKC and purebred dogs are sick anyway? Did AKC refuse to register something you have? Do you happen to know more than they do?

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  33. I see what is the problem with the white-ish doberman.

    But what’s the problem with the all-black ones? They are not standard. And? Standards change when there is enough demand by the breeders. If they are healthy, they are an attractive byproducts of the current standard. And I feel this a lot less an acceptable reason than the white ones health issues.

    Btw the title says ‘The 5 Doberman Colors And The One To Avoid’ – but the arcticle says that there is TWO we should avoid. The white and the black. Now what?

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      • Before you judge white dobermans I would recommend talking to people that have them.

        There is no health issues nor do they have behavioral issues, I find it funny when people say they are bad but have never had or seen one in person lol

        Whites live longer and have less health issues because breeders have to breed them for health and think about what they are doing.

        Love the whites

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        • I totally agree with Dober mom. We showed Dobermans and Afghans in the late 70’s and in the last 15 years have had three Reds , one Black and Tan and one White. The White boy is the most wonderful dog we’ve ever had. I wish people would stop talking trash about them when they have never experienced having one. He has the sweetest temperament and is an old soul, he has beautiful blue eyes, loves other dogs, kids, cats and people in general. He is of great character and personality. We rescued him when he was 2 years old and it’s a good thing we didn’t take to heart all the negative comments people write about them. We have watched him self monitor in the sun and while he has skin tags, not one of them has been anything serious or detrimental to him. If you come across a White Dobie, don’t hesitate to give him/her a forever home.

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        • THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!! I have had Doberman my entire life black reds blues and fawns and currently have 2 whites and they are AMAZING!! NO health issues or behavioral issues at all! They are beautiful amazing dogs!!

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          • Hey Sarah, do you know of a good breeder or where I would have the best chance of finding a white? I grew up with black and reds, and I would like to get another Black and a white. Ive come into contact with a white before and I fell in love but I dont really know where to look. Help? Thanks.

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            • Hello.
              Just adopted a red/Rust 20 month old male and would like another Dobbie.
              Curious about the White Doberman you mention. Still available?

            • I am a breeder and my female come from a line of whites. I would never dream of having any other breed they are fantastic. I love the whites and blues they are great

            • KJ – Hi, I don’t know if you ever got an answer…As to where you could find a good, responsible, conscientious breeder, who may have “White Doberman Puppies”

              Rainbow Haus Dobermans in Eland, WI was owned by Brigette Block, until, God Rest Her Soul, she passed away. Her daughter has taken over the kennel and is just as driven to support the White Dobermans and the Doberman Pinscher, as a breed, in whole.

              They are beautiful, rare Dobies. They are not genetic Mutations that should be culled at birth. I have known many White Dober-girls/boys, through Brigette. I have Never seen an “Albino”, they aren’t deaf, or skittish, or brain damaged, as described by bias people who refuse to look at real proof. They are evey bit the cherished Doberman Pinscher we all know and love. They just happen to, every now and then, come in White or Cream.
              And they do not carry a trait on the white gene that make them unhealthy. You stand a greater chance of getting a black and rust, from a careless breeder, that carries the dreaded Von Willebrands, Wobbles, etc.. than getting a White Doberman from a Careful, Conscientious Breeder, such as RainbowHausDobermans

              Good Luck to you.

        • These Dobermans actually do have health probs there white coat shouldn’t be exposed to sun I had a white dobee before

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          • Hi David Acosta,

            You are right, you do have to be a bit careful with White Dobes getting too much sun. As with any Nordic human being, we know that the less color pigment in our skin, the more susceptible we are to the harmful ultra-violet sun rays.

            All Dobermans are sensitive to the cold, as well. My red Dober-boy, Steele, gets a sunburn on and just above his nostrils the fist day outside in the Spring.
            So, Steele gets a bit of sun block on his nose. Both my Black/rust girl, Phoenix and Steele get a fleece lined coat in the Winter.

            It’s just a thing we do to protect our four-legged family members.

            What the people have a problem with…. is the unfounded accusations that the Recessive gene that Expresses as a “White Doberman”, also carries a trait that make them inferior to their colored cousins. This is a fallacy. Propaganda to scare people from breeding, even owning, a White or Cream Colored Dobe.

            You are very fortunate to have been blessed with your Dober-pal. I have never been owned by a “White”, but I’ve been blessed to know several, very, very well.
            They are HEALTHY, Happy, Loving, Stable friends. Every bit as PERFECT as any other color expression of our beloved Doberman Pinschers.

            Take care 😉

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  34. Are you kidding? What a bunch of self- flattering snobbery, 1). Go to the pound and get the dog of your choice. 2) Fall in love with it, and do all you can do to make its life better. 3) If you have extra money enough, do NOT get the DNA tested, but rather give it to a homeless person on the street with a dog. 4) Pay better attention to grammar, spelling and typing skills.

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    • Shut your mouth dumbass, if people wanna spend their hard earned money on something they want then let em….who the f**know are u to say anything. … douchbag. …..is that good for your grammar

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    • Look, I’ve owned rescue dogs and purebreds. Currently I have two of my own Dobermans and one foster I am taking care of until she is healthy enough to be placed in a forever home.
      Responsible breeders produce healthy dogs with desirable traits that in many cases either ensure a valuable services or facilitate ownership for people who might not otherwise be able to live with a dog.
      Shelter dogs and puppy mill dogs are bred by irresponsible assholes and greedy bastards.
      If you want direct you ire at anyone, don’t take aim at responsible breeders and owners who love and care for their animals.
      Lay blame where blame belongs, the people who don’t spay, neglect, and/or abuse animals. They’re the ones who cause animals to suffer and waste billions of dollars in resources that could be used elsewhere.
      And if you sincerely care about shelter dogs, I also recommend you stop whining on the internet and start pushing your congressman for tougher laws punishing animal abusers and tighter regulation of pet ownership and breeding.
      Many European countries have all but eliminated unwanted and stray dogs by cracking down on the behaviors that produce them. America could be the same way if we stop putting the so called “rights” of animal abusers above the health and safety of animals.

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      • It’s obviously you don’t know a damn thing about the breed do your research get a DNA test stop believing all the crap you see on the internet about white Dobermans none of it is true

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        • My uncle was swept up in the trend 13 years ago and paid twice the money when he adopted a white doberman. By its first year the poor girl was blind, covered in sores from being in the sun without sunscreen and the animal got cancer in its liver and died before it was 4 years old. White Dobermans are predisposed to many health issues. Why would someone breed for this on purpose???? MONEY. That is the only reason. It is not for betterment of the breed, for confirmation or for the show ring because they are not the breed standard. So, speak up when you know what you are talking about.

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          • If they got a bad white then it was from a person that did not care about the health and was possibly inbreeding. That will cause many health issues. My whites have never had an issue and are no different than any other color. They are just as loving as any other color. Dr. S. At the University of Saskatchewan says that color has no bearing on the health and temperament of a dog. The breeding is the culprit of the problems a white may have. A good breeder breeding for health in the whites is going to produce good whites. My first ones never had a health issue up till the day they passed peacefully in there sleep.

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      • Please do not spay or neuter your pets. If your were truly responsible with your pets this would not even be necessary. Spaying/neuterining is the equivalent of cutting out a woman’s ovaries or a man’s testicles without their permission.would you like for your doctor to do this to you simply because he didn’t think you should have children? Over crowding in shelters is a human made problem that will not end in YOUR life time, so your whining is pathetic and futile. Stop. It is safer to put animals down in a shelter than to risk it 1. Being sent to an abusive or unstable home 2. Being out on the street to cause a problem or die a painful death. Shelter dogs are not for everyone. Some people want purebred dogs from a RELIABLE source. Animal shelters are not a reliable source. Most dogs in shelters are… Mutt dogs. And while I have owned only one purebred dog out of a total of eight dogs total (only one of my mutts came from the pound. I got her when I was two years of age and she just recently died. I am now 16) I can say that for some people, purebred dogs are better. It is also far easier to know the temperament and shape such when purchasing a pure pup. Mutt dogs and shelter dogs can have very unpredictable behavior problems. Shelter pets often come from abusive backgrounds and, like people, may trigger with certain circumstances assuming they don’t start off with poor behavior. For some dogs, like those who were abused to the point of retched temperament, putting them to sleep in a shelter is better than forcing it to live in fear or possibly putting you or your loved ones in danger due its unpredictable nature. Mutt dogs are said to be the best, but this is not always the case. While they do typically have high intelligence, friendly disposition, and minimal health issues, the opposite is also fairly common. I currently have two dogs: a purebred red nose pitbull male and a chocolate brindle female pit lab mix. The male dog is very intelligent, very loving and affectionate, and riddled with unfixable health problems. He is not fixed, and he is very unagressive accept to male dogs who barge into his territory. This is natural. The female is, and I love this dog so do not think I am biased, very stupid. She was only one year old when we rescued her from death row and despite persistent training, she is still very very stupid. However, she is overly friendly with EVERYONE and very healthy. She is also not fixed. She has never had puppies despite constant companionship from a male who isn’t fixed.
        Again, don’t fix your pets because it’s cruel and inhumane. Exercise responsibility instead. Shelter dogs aren’t for everyone. Neither are purebreds. Choose what works for YOU. and please stop guilt trapping people into picking a shelter pet. Not everyone wants one, and people are impressionable. Don’t make someone get a dog from the pound that turns out to be poor tempered, because they are then, by conscience, stuck with said dog.

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        • Did you just comment please don’t neuter your dog? How ignorant is this. No its norepriducing It’s a pet. It’s a domesticated animal (we) as responsible adults are to look out for their well being, And yes I encourage this because you’re saving the animal giving it a healthier life. Have you ever seen a female dog get cervical cancer?? Do you know they can get cancer if you don’t get them fixed? You claim to have rescued some dogs from the shelter, let me ask something, didnt it break your heart to see that overcrowding there? It’s because of people like you who feel it’s not worth it to neuter them, therefor they keep reproducing . Smh . Maybe you shudnt even own a dog if you feel they’re , how do I put this, um.. “stuoid”. If you ask me it’s people who are ignorant and stupid . (If the shoe fits)

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          • You are wrong, recent, proper scientific research is showing the opposite:

            Dogs neutered or spayed at any age were at significantly increased risk for developing mast cell cancer, lymphoma, all other cancers, all cancers combined, and fear of storms, compared with intact dogs.
            Females spayed at 12 months or younger, and both genders neutered or spayed at over 12 months had significantly increased odds of developing hemangiosarcoma, compared with intact dogs.
            Dogs of both genders neutered or spayed at 6 months or younger had significantly increased odds of developing a behavioral disorder, including separation anxiety, noise phobia, timidity, excitability, submissive urination, aggression, hyperactivity, and/or fear biting. When it came to thunderstorm phobia, all neutered or spayed Vizslas were at greater risk than intact Vizslas, regardless of age at neutering.
            The younger the age at neutering, the earlier the age at diagnosis with mast cell cancer, cancers other than mast cell, hemangiosarcoma, lymphoma, all cancers combined, a behavioral disorder, or fear of storms.
            Compared to intact dogs, neutered and spayed dogs had a 3.5 times higher risk of developing mast cell cancer, regardless of what age they were neutered.
            Spayed females had nine times higher incidence of hemangiosarcoma compared to intact females, regardless of when spaying was performed, however, no difference in incidence of this type of cancer was found for neutered vs. intact males.
            Neutered and spayed dogs had 4.3 times higher incidence of lymphoma (lymphosarcoma), regardless of age at time of neutering.
            Neutered and spayed dogs had five times higher incidence of other types of cancer, regardless of age of neutering.
            Spayed females had 6.5 times higher incidence of all cancers combined compared to intact females, and neutered males had 3.6 times higher incidence than intact males.

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            • I agree with you and on a recent visit to the vet with our new rescue he was pleased to see that he was 2 yrs old before neutering (we have no choice when getting a rescue) because he said recent studies showed a 15% reduction in cancers if neutered at 2 years AS COMPARED TO NEUTERING AS A PUPPY). Best yet is a responsible owner that does not spay or neuter and keeps their pet from unwanted breeding.

        • Excellent post for a youngster, see my reply to the post below to see why you are right. I also agree with not getting dogs from shelters, I want to know where my dogs have come from and that they have had my influence and training from a young age.

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        • Is this a serious post? Do you know the health issues and aggression that can come without spaying or neutering? Also…. most shelter animals make wonderful pets.

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        • Your right about euthanasia. People who are disruptive and have bad temperaments should be euthanized too. Never give anyone or any animal a second chance. That’s why good little republicans want to outlaw abortion because who wants an unwanted brat around. Their mothers are forced to have what they don’t want then toss then aside because none of the do gooders want them so they get fostered. You’re a freaking genius.

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        • Where to begin… Ok my family purchased a blue Doberman pinscher in 2009 at roughly 2 months of age with tail docked… I was given AKC paperwork regarding history of his lineage and AKC number. Little did I know at the time the classification of “WZ” would come to haunt my wallet and health of our new pup. WZ i found out after the fact from AKC is a designation of Doberman’s with the albino trait even though he is a blue Doberman, he is a carrier and hence why he was given that designation.
          Back to my story: I was told moZart had increased risk of skin problems and eye problems…. I didn’t pay them any heed however I was in for a painful surprise.

          First problem: MoZart lost ALL of his hair/coat from the neck to his hind quarters.
          Second major problem and most expensive: woke up one morning and found MoZart wimpering and saw his eyes had changed colors: one was blue, the other a strange greenish color… took him to the emergency vet hospital and found he was suffering from a corneal ulceration :-(. If I did nothing he would have lost his left eye… also there were only 3 dog ophthalmologists in the state of SC and had to subsequently go to Charleston, SC for his therapy to try and save his eye! My bill at the ER hospital for meds alone was: $1400! CASH!! Then another $1000 for ophthalmologist….. in the end he came out ok with the saved eye.
          Third problem: our moZart sufferes from lick granuloma issues and benign lipoma tumors (6) in total! So there you have it! I never had a Doberman before but I love ours even if my wallet has palpitations when going to the vet for dog related issues! My advice would be to first: find out if the pooch you might get has been registered as the dreaded WZ and if so… RUN!

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        • You are a real jerk. Please spay or neuter your pets. If not for their health, at least to cut down on all the poor pets that have to be put down every year in shelters. Be a RESPONSBLE pet owner if your love your fur baby.

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      • Breeders should Produce what they want as a breeder in a dog as long its healthy and functional or not deformed its about your preference because have to feed keep and raise the dogs not another breeder I wouldn’t dare breed to please other people like if you like it buy it if not I will raise and be stuck but at least I will be stuck with what I like

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    • I have a fantastic WHITE Doberman! She has NO health or behavior problems what so ever. This is classic snobbery! My white may squint in the sun but so do I! I’m assuming the person who wrote this article never needs sunglasses! There is way to much overbreeding of ANY breed so don’t single out the white Doberman and make shit up because you were either brain washed or breed and can’t sell one of your “perfect” colored dobermans because someone may purchase a white over yours. I also have 3 reds and 1 black, all healthy.

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      • Bad genetics is bad genetics, any animal that’s entire blood line can be traced back to a single individual is badly inbreed. This gos for cats, dogs, horses, pigs and any thing else. Now some breeders have been trying to fix the problem by crossing the white with fawn to keep the light color but extend the gen pool, this is helping the problem a lot. But not being willing to see there is a problem will not help at all

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      • just because your white dog is healthy now doesn’t mean it won’t run into issues later. the average human life expectancy in the u.s. is 78 years, but that doesn’t mean there won’t be outliers who live longer due to genetics or other variables. your inbred dog still has unethical genetics.

        do you think white tigers should continue to be bred, as well?

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        • This is a difficult question as it is not really possible to tell whether a purebred white tiger has/has not any particular advantage genetically over a normal coloured tiger. The population of white tigers is also too small and probably somewhat inbred to realistically test this theory. However, when we look at the longevity of, say, albino rabbits, guinea pigs, pigeons and budgies, we can realistically say that being white in itself is not fatal to a species. For example, if the white gene in a tiger provided resistance to any given cat disease, then breeding white tigers could potentially endow the species with a ‘get-out-of-jail-free’ card in the future.
          It is difficult to analyse why the Caucasian colour originated in humans – presumably because melanistic colouration was not particularly needed in the Northern Hemisphere of our planet. White tigers are very beautiful creatures as are white lions and both occur and survive naturalistically in nature. I think the main point about white Dobermans is that they should rarely be bred from both white parents. If there are genetic problems in a particular line – say, deafness or blindness – then that could easily be mitigated by careful selective breeding. Darwin’s theories of natural selection might suggest that a white tiger would not be able to breed in nature due to it’s ‘different-ness’, however, nature and reality clearly evidence that this genetic variant continues to procreate on our planet. Humans as a species have not been around, in any influential way for very long. I am concerned that our rather flawed, poorly evidence-based opinions may rob us of the pleasure of some lovely animals. All domesticated animals – including all dog breeds are a bit of an abomination or reconstruction of ‘natural selection’ and I feel that we need to be wary of pontificating or judging the significant efforts of those who believe in breeding white Dobermans. Dogs should look something like a wolf, a dingo, or a fox if they had not been reconfigured by humans.

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        • White Tigers are not albinos, and therefore do not suffer the genetic weaknesses common to albinos. No comparison to white Dobermans, which are albinos.

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      • VMD and AKC registered Doberman breeder here.
        The issue with white Dobermans is that all white Dobermans are severely inbred. When the very first white Dobermans were discovered due to a mutation, they would breed brother and sister white Dobermans together to make more white Dobermans. Due to this, white Dobermans experience many issues that their normal colored siblings wouldn’t, including extremely UV sensitive skin, early on set glaucoma, lapsed patellas, aggression, and more. If your white Doberman really doesn’t have any health or behavioral issues then you are EXTREMELY lucky, for I’ve never once seen a white Doberman without at least one of the issues I mentioned before.

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    • “Responsible” is the key word here. “Responsible” breeders breed healthy dogs. “Responsible” pet owners do what is best for loved pet.
      PS
      Spell checked by my mutt and pure bred who ran it by the goldfish.

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    • You’re a FUCKING BOZO!!!! People can do what ever they want as far as getting a dog. Get off your high horse hippe! U sound like an idiot!

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    • Liberal, if someone wants a well bred full bred fog with a health history, family history
      Great. I’ve volunteer edo at ASPCAS and many of those dogs have serious physical and emotional issues. Idiot!

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    • Some people love dobermans and only want a doberman. They have a personality unlike any other dog, if you had ever owned one you would understand. Stop preaching your personal opinions, it isnt a crime to buy a purebred dog. I have rescued many homeless dogs , but I will always own a doberman too.

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  35. I need help my family and I just purchased a black and rust Doberman from pure breeders.com (I know everyone will have their opinions on the site) and it was just brought to my attention through my asking that the Doberman we are getting z factored. I know that means he will have some of the albino gene in him but is this going to cause any health issues? my family and I are very invested in this puppy his name is Einstein and I’d hate to back out on this because we’ve already grown quite attached to him. Well be receiving him next week once he turns 8 weeks but I’m just worried now that’s all the money I just spent on him I’m going to spend more because of the possible health issues of him being z factored . could anyone tell me their experience if possible with Z factor of puppies?

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    • Three years ago I had the same concern. I purchased a red puppy whose dad is red and mom is white. He is a wonderful family dog.. His only health issue is that he’s had runny eyes (nothing major) since he was a pup. Other than that he is in very good health. His temperament is exceptional. I take hm almost everywhere that I can and receive compliments on his look and temperament too. I can’t take him anywhere without people asking if he’s a show dog. Little kids that don’t know him jst run right up to him and want to pet him. He doesn’t have an aggressive bone in his body. He is very smart and attentive. I couldn’t have asked for a better dog.

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      • only the “white” doberman will have health issues but PLZ fix your dog and do not breed it. I am sure you didn’t know about the z factor before hand and it should say on it’s AKC papers that there is NO Z FACTOR in its bloodline if it comes from quality breeders. My daughter breeds dobermans for the better of the breed, she can tell you all you need to know and more of what you want to know. Take your pup home and love it. Just be responsible and don’t breed it like the owners of the two dogs that made your little bundle of joy.

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        • Wouldn’t it be nice if we could guarantee that the breeders of the white Dobermans had as much integrity as you think your daughter has ? Let’s use our brains to think about original, non-judgemental thoughts! Your comment is awaiting moderation.

          This is a difficult question as it is not really possible to tell whether a purebred white tiger has/has not any particular advantage genetically over a normal coloured tiger. The population of white tigers is also too small and probably somewhat inbred to realistically test this theory. However, when we look at the longevity of, say, albino rabbits, guinea pigs, pigeons and budgies, we can realistically say that being white in itself is not fatal to a species. For example, if the white gene in a tiger provided resistance to any given cat disease, then breeding white tigers could potentially endow the species with a ‘get-out-of-jail-free’ card in the future.
          It is difficult to analyse why the Caucasian colour originated in humans – presumably because melanistic colouration was not particularly needed in the Northern Hemisphere of our planet. White tigers are very beautiful creatures as are white lions and both occur and survive naturalistically in nature. I think the main point about white Dobermans is that they should rarely be bred from both white parents. If there are genetic problems in a particular line – say, deafness or blindness – then that could easily be mitigated by careful selective breeding. Darwin’s theories of natural selection might suggest that a white tiger would not be able to breed in nature due to it’s ‘different-ness’, however, nature and reality clearly evidence that this genetic variant continues to procreate on our planet. Humans as a species have not been around, in any influential way for very long. I am concerned that our rather flawed, poorly evidence-based opinions may rob us of the pleasure of some lovely animals. All domesticated animals – including all dog breeds are a bit of an abomination or reconstruction of ‘natural selection’ and I feel that we need to be wary of pontificating or judging the significant efforts of those who believe in breeding white Dobermans. Dogs should look something like a wolf, a dingo, or a fox if they had not been reconfigured by humans.

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      • We rescued our white dobie. I’ve had dobies of every color except fawn. By far, my white girl is the healthiest of all of them, and has the thickest, most beautiful coat of all of them too. She’s 11 now, and still going strong. She’s a happy girl, and makes us happy too. When we walk in our little town, she’s a rock star. I’m glad we were in the right place to give this sweet, HEALTHY dog a loving home.

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    • Having nearly 50 years experience with this breed, the one thing to keep in mind is there are known issues which even many who have absolute whites are not aware of and have no understanding of why their dog behaves or reacts certain way. More often than not, this is usually because circumstances the owner thinks “may have” caused such reaction. In truth, there are various factors involved that may have deemed one dog bad, while another dog even from the same litter, but who has never been subjected to the same issues. Too much sun, loud noises, rambunctious children at play, (not just bikes, skateboards, etc) even older kids can get on a dog’s nerves. The environment is everything. So for example, the sunlight affecting them is a fact, it is much more than causing them to squint or blink a lot. But you could try avoiding excessive exposure to direct sun, if you have to take them out, incorporate the use of sunglasses as a medical need, rather than an occasional accessory feature element of having the dog look cool. The blurred vision they experience along with skin irritations from exposure can lead to “itchy nerves” (or more simplified – nervousness), especially after long exposures to direct sunlight and heat or extreme cold. It has been what most often leads to fear biting which is not as prevalent in other colors. Monitor these things, supervise and dedicate time to them as a member of your home. These are not outside pets, should never be exposed to cold or heat for any real length of time, if it’s hot, keep the walks short, if it’s cold out, be brief as possible on potty outings and provide alternatives for exercising with indoor games, fetch in the hallway, , treadmills, etc.

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    • There are a lot of falsehoods on the internet about so-called albino dog or whites a white which is a cream white mix which is what they’re referring to as Z Factor are not albino

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  36. I have several dobermans I have all colors including white she is a beautiful happy healthy 2 and a half year old she has no health problems. I think there are a lot of moronic people on this site that are prejudiced as well as an educated even though they should stop and think that humans by their logic are imbread as well because if it was just Adam and eve then some body was double dipping…so white dobermans aren’t alone are they?

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    • Seriously: Seek help.
      You obviously are quite the Bible Scholar, huh?
      Oh, wait ~ It must be your words put together in a sentence that are just stupid.
      Please don’t justify ignorant human actions and behavior with a book and history that you have proved you have no comprehension of.
      Although, inbreeding would explain your human shortcomings.

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      • Religious bashing is rude. While it shouldn’t be on a site about dogs, it’s still rude. All dogs are subject to health problems, purebreds more so. Pure breeding REQUIRES inbreeding. And humans are an inbred species wether or not you believe the principalities of Christianity. Although, that book does contradict itself in so many ways… I digress. All of this snobbery over an inbred animal is simply ridiculous. White dobermans can be sickly or healthy as can ANY other dog. While the above person’s grammar and spelling IS rather poor, the words being spoken are not stupid, but true. You, however, do sound very stupid and childish by 1. Bashing someone’s religion. 2. Calling them stupid. Keep in mind, we are arguing over a DOG. You have the attitude of a twelve year old girl, though I would like to think you are older. I am 16 years of age and I am more adult than well over half the people leaving comments here. Namely you.

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      • You sound scarily superior to the rest of us – Thread from 2 posts above – ‘Wouldn’t it be nice if we could guarantee that the breeders of the white Dobermans had as much integrity as you think your daughter has ? Let’s use our brains to think about original, non-judgemental thoughts! Your comment is awaiting moderation.

        This is a difficult question as it is not really possible to tell whether a purebred white tiger has/has not any particular advantage genetically over a normal coloured tiger. The population of white tigers is also too small and probably somewhat inbred to realistically test this theory. However, when we look at the longevity of, say, albino rabbits, guinea pigs, pigeons and budgies, we can realistically say that being white in itself is not fatal to a species. For example, if the white gene in a tiger provided resistance to any given cat disease, then breeding white tigers could potentially endow the species with a ‘get-out-of-jail-free’ card in the future.
        It is difficult to analyse why the Caucasian colour originated in humans – presumably because melanistic colouration was not particularly needed in the Northern Hemisphere of our planet. White tigers are very beautiful creatures as are white lions and both occur and survive naturalistically in nature. I think the main point about white Dobermans is that they should rarely be bred from both white parents. If there are genetic problems in a particular line – say, deafness or blindness – then that could easily be mitigated by careful selective breeding. Darwin’s theories of natural selection might suggest that a white tiger would not be able to breed in nature due to it’s ‘different-ness’, however, nature and reality clearly evidence that this genetic variant continues to procreate on our planet. Humans as a species have not been around, in any influential way for very long. I am concerned that our rather flawed, poorly evidence-based opinions may rob us of the pleasure of some lovely animals. All domesticated animals – including all dog breeds are a bit of an abomination or reconstruction of ‘natural selection’ and I feel that we need to be wary of pontificating or judging the significant efforts of those who believe in breeding white Dobermans. Dogs should look something like a wolf, a dingo, or a fox if they had not been reconfigured by humans.
        How sad and pitiful are you ? ‘Look in before you look oot’ an age-old Scottish expression.

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  37. I have a beautiful,sweet WHITE dobie who will be five this year. I had a red dobie for 13 years…my white is no different…no added health issues. She has the dobie markings…just two different colors of cream. I agree that the albino is in her gene pool…but, she is NOT an albino.
    She is smart and is trained well with a good disposition. She loves to swim in our pool,the lake,ocean, whatever.Black and Tan have always been what most people think about…but, reds,fawns,blues etc…have made there way into common breeding…why not whites? I think some people have developed an absurd bias. Love your dog and I will Love mine!

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  38. I think many people don’t want to admit the truth about albino dogs because it resonates with whites people having white skin which is also albinism. Orginal and natural skin is brown due to melanin which attracts the sun and creates vitamin d and makes us stronger. White skin can’t go into the sun and therefore can’t create vitamin D which leaves their bodies to pull it from their bones making them weak and open to osteoporosis and every other diseases and sickness some which albino dogs have in common. You don’t see white plants or trees that are not green becusse they need pigment (chlorophyll thier melanin) to convert sunlight and photosynthesize. Whites have been insecure about this fact and rewrote history to try and make white skin more attractive when it is in fact inferior and a genetic mutation. So there you have it.

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      • because the black ones are the best for you and far superior to the plain white ones. think of it as thanksgiving dinner if you will. black gives flavor and life, while white dilutes and uses water as base.

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    • To the person who spreads semi thought out racist comments you are comparing white Dobermans to “insecure” white people concluding with white people are unhealthy because of their skin being pale.Specifically that white people suffer from osteoporosis because they cannot go in the sun.
      Black people have higher rates of high blood pressure and are more likely than whites to have vitamin D shortages in northern hemispheres because their skin is so dark that they don’t manufacture enough of it in northern countries. I have seen black people and babies with rickets (legs bend). The white skin is a mutation which occurred most likely to increase absorption off vitamin D in northern countries which is where the white races evolved. They have even discovered that Neanderthals had red hair and blue eyes. That is thousands of years ago and they lived in northern Europe and into Russia. So learn more before spouting off. And by the way dogs are not people.

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      • Amen, Michelle. I have raised Black and Tan, Red and Tan, Blue and Cream and Tan. Their temperments were all wonderful and they were glorious blessings. Love this breed and thank you for loving it, too.

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    • I am 66 years old, and am on my 5th Doberman…Perhaps my last and it is unthinkable for me not to not have one.

      How you can psychologically mix dog breeding with human color and racism is not just astounding and blithering in it’s ignorance, it is also alarming.

      Writer, have you never seen a Chihuahua? Yes humans manipulate genetics for their entertainment at times, and at times they are guided through intelligence and a divergence from the norm that forms that which has given us the diversity in all living things, the mind expanding wild and exhilarating roller coaster ride of explosive evolution.

      There are people in this terribly troubled and divisive world that don’t deserve to have the loyalty and unconditional love that most any dog will give openly and freely, even if they do not receive the same comfort and respect from their companion.

      I suppose you hold your beliefs deeply. Perhaps through pain or just life’s experiences have instilled, branded them deeply into your heart and spirit. It’s done that to me too. It does that to almost everybody. You are not special. You are the product of mating genetics just as much as a white or silver Doberman or two humans of any color (some better adapted than others awhile, but then things change) because a male had an erection and a female accommodated it by choice or force. That’s you. Howdy.

      I’ll buy your dog. That is a serious offer, and transport too. (Unless of course you live on Mars, and I do take that as a serious possibility.) If just to get it away from you and whatever this “white” thing you have is not visited upon the animal. You should come to Alaska,
      Most of the year the environment is white white white LOL! Additionally, Alaska just has to many kinds of cultures in the small parts that are accessible to support humans in numbers to have to embrace racial beliefs .

      I don’t care what harsh bio-cultural forces shaped you, but I don’t like you ya F_____g jerk. I served in the military as an Aviation Search and Rescue Corpsman (and it’s an open wound, not a scar), offering my life along with people of all cultures and colors. I have served in jails, as an assistant in two State Senates, as a contender in the ring with men of all colors and of determined heart, many long walks and talks. and behind the bar gravel parking lots.

      Come North of Canada. I’ll introduce myself and more than one “different” color Doberman.

      Hope you will sell me your dog. Get yourself another color more to your liking.

      Leland

      North. I’ll introduce myself and more than one “different” color Doberman.

      Hope you will sell me your dog. Get yourself another color.

      Leland

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        • Beautifully said. I am honored to read your story. You sound like you have a deep love for the breed. So do I . Would like to tell you my story. We lost 3 German shepherds in 11 months, 2 with in 48 hours of one another. All due to old age band sickness. The youngest was 13 . Our last shepherd Sebastian was so depressed he wouldn’t eat and hid in the corner. He couldn’t handle the loss of his pack. I’ve grown up with Dobermans all my life and I knew Sebastian would die of a broken heart if we didn’t get a companion. So me and my husband adopted a 10 month old Doberman from San Antonio Doberman Rescue and advocacy. He rescued us just as much as we rescued him. Their was life again in our house instead of tears and grieving. He was badly abused so we know its going to be a long road. With time, love and patience he will become the dog god intended him to be. Thank you for reading our story. God bless.

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  39. I had two doberman a blue and a fawn they both loved to play with tennis balls. When I worked they was able go outside in a large fenced yard . They were taught you give kisses no bite.

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  40. Okay, I own a beautiful Dob. Now everyone take a moment and let’s think about how long dobs have been around ? Okay , all of a sudden white/partial albino have popped up and Oh My God it must be a new line of dobs? Give your head a shake. It is a mutation and its animal abuse to breed like this because you think it’s cool . It is proven that the higher percentile have major health issues and a lot of the shows don’t accept them for reasons! Bottom line is that it is a mutation and more importantly it causes health issues for these poor animals! Isn’t that enough ?. Again you may get lucky and have no issues with your dob now but the percent is huge on these to have extreme health issues.

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  41. Just curious, I have a 1 year old purebred blue Doberman and he has blue eyes. Is it normal for them to have blue eyes as an adult? He has been checked over by a vet several times and has no vision or health problems.

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  42. Laura you should be VERY CONCERNED!

    ALBINOS (which there is scientific proof that they are in fact albinos) are always from back yard breeders. They are done with little to no health testing as well as little to no titling. That in no way is improving the breed.

    Do not let smooth talking greeders convince you. It’s a crap shoot with albinos. A well bred doberman (which clearly 99% of you have no clue what that is) will be way healthier than an albino.

    This whole thread disgusts/disappoints me. 🙁 For all those saying AKC registers albino dobermans, the AKC also register puppy mill dogs, does that make it an acceptable practice?

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  43. as a vet i have seen so many of you love don’t love white dobe but the thing is its not about the health or about the color or where it came from what matter is how you love your pets if you define them differently then you define your pets as pest not with love. where is the sense of having love?

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  44. I have a male and female black and tan dobermans the female i got frim indiana the male i got from tennessee i just bred them last year and one pup came out white so please explain to me how my white doberman is the product of inbreeding some of you need to realize thats not the only way their made.

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    • You have two dog, who has one black allel and one white. The white one is hidden if there is a black. But if you breed them, you can get 3 sorts of puppy because the puppy get one allel from each parents:

      1.) both allels are black – you get a normal, usual dog (25% chance)

      2.) one black and one white, just like the parents (50% chance – this has twice the chance that the both-black or the both-white) – they are carriers, their white gene allel is hidden

      3.) both allels are white – you get a white puppy (25% chance)

      When the first white dog occured, they inbreed her strongly. It is usual behaviour by breeders when a new mutations occurs. But the allel can occur spontan and of course, your dogs can be offspring from this white line. Since one white and one black allel means a black (and tan/rust) dog, and the white allel is rare, people can have white-carrier dogs without ever find out.

      So if you breed your dog again, you have 25% chance of every pup to be white, and 75% chance to black. Don’t worry, there isn’t any problem with this.

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  45. The pure ignorance (and arrogance) in a lot of these comments is overwhelming. Is the concept of good breeding practices really so difficult to comprehend? Good breeding is done to maintain the health of the breed as a whole. Continuing to introduce “white” Dobermans into breeding lines is doing a great disservice to the breed in general.

    You all claim to care so much about these dogs but yet you obviously put no effort into educating yourselves about them and how maintaining a healthy vibrate breed standard is accomplished. If you truly cared as much as you would like others to believe, you would take the time to understand instead of spouting off at the mouth when its painfully obvious you haven’t a clue what you’re talking about. Knee jerks reactions, using religion as justification (c’mon get real), using only your particular dog as an example for all, and many other ridiculous defences, only hurts the DOGS in the long-term. You are not helping, you are hurting, period.

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  46. I think the people on here telling others that breeding a dog for a look is bad should really stop and think about what they’re saying. Breeding any dogs should be outlawed in my opinion the shelters are crowded with purebreds and mutt’s alike. What makes these supposed pure breds any better than the mutt’s? I have taken in many dogs that were not purebred and wonderful animals. All dogs no matter what breed should be spayed bottom line. The local shelter has several purebred dobies waiting to be adopted right now. ANYONE WHO BREEDS OR SHOWS ANY ANIMALS OR MAKES AN ATTEMPT AT BREED STANDARDS OR WHO ONLY OWNS PUREBREDS, has no right to blast anyone else for wanting their dog to look a certain way. If you were any better you wouldnt be breeding dobermans and adding to the unwanted masses of dogs in shelters you would be adopting and careing for the dogs already here. In reguards to health issues, all purebred dogs have more health issues than mixed breed dogs, generally each BREED has its own list of common health problems associated with THAT BREED. My lovely boxer/rottwreiler just passed away last week at the ripe old age of 16! During his life span never suffered from any of the health risks associated to dogs specific on either side of his family. It’s just cruel in my opinion to maintain purebred dogs when the mutts are so much healthier! (about halfway sarcastic) Now I’m starting to sound like some of you guys. Sickly dogs produce sickly pups, I wonder why its supposed to be ok to breed a unhealthy black and tan doberman but not a healthy white one? All breeds of everything has standards, standards change over time. They always have. They always will!

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    • I cannot believe what you just said, NO ONE should EVER breed.. hahahahahahaha.. oh yes and while we are on it , lets make our faithful dogs become extinct .. you foolish person yours has to be the most nonsensical comment I have ever read on a doggie site lolol tut tut tut

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      • It is very cruel to spay or neuter pets. That is the equivalent of cutting out a womans ovaries and a mans testicles without their consent. Not breeding them is a ridiculous notion as purebreds do have their uses (hounds are bred for hunting and they excel at it. Shepherds are excellent at herding, which is their purpose. Pit bulls are amazing at guarding homes, mostly children, and they were bred to be nanny dogs.) but breeding them simply for the pleasure of having a show quality dog is… Dumb. Purebred dogs aside from a few breeds like the Komondor (a very large “mop dog”) are not at all family friendly by nature and are originally bred for WORK, not to keep as a pet. Mutt dogs (shelter dogs) make better pets for the simple fact that they are not typically bred for a specific purpose and this gives them (depending on the mix of breeds) wonderful personalities and surprising qualities. However, they are a bit of a roulette because the negative qualities of their parental breeds are also there. Still, breeding is needed for that so the idiot you replied to is, in fact, an idiot.

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        • Evilboo if we do not spay/neuter dogs then we will have even more strays that get put in shelters and get put down or live their lives on the streets is that really what you want? We already have hundreds of homeless dogs we do not need more so I feel to not spay/neuter them that would be harming them more than helping them.

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  47. With regards to the white ‘albino’ Dobermanns, I’m not sure what the hoo-hah is surrounding them? Every pedigree dog has been interbred at its early stage in history to obtain the desired looks etc that are required from it. What is so different with these? Also, what about the numerous pedigrees out there that suffer from various ailments i.e. skin, stomach, ear, breathing etc? One day, the gene pool might be sufficiently large enough to breed-out any unwanted traits from the initial in-breeding…. PS, I don’t own a white Dobe but rather a Cockerpoo! 🙂

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  48. I have 2 dobes, black and red, and Isabella. The AKC does register white(albino) dobermans. The first recorded albino female, Shebah is not the only white doberman of record. At the time of her registration it was found that there was in fact 7 other AKC registered white dobes. Listed as white only because albino is not a color. These dogs were never tracked nor were their litters. Only Shebah. To say all albinos today come from her blood line is false. No one has had all the albinos dna tracked to see. All white dobes are tracked as “z” by the AKC. If you have ever seen a picture of Shebah you will see she was not totally white. She was a faded Isabella, very pale tan. and there is word that her mother had a albino male ina previous litter that “died at a young age” that was probably destroyed because he was not a breedable color. Fact is that there are still breeders that destroy blues and Isabellas and reds, because they are from mutated genes. if you get one and have it dna tested it may or may not be from Shebah’s bloodline. She is simply the first accepted by the AKC that can be tracked this way.

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  49. ahh, its funny to see all the hatred for the white dobbies. I have one too (rescue). She’s sweet and gentle and no problems so far (other than too much love licks). The “funny” part comes in with all the “responsible” breeders implying that their dogs weren’t inbred 1000 times to get to the breed standard. You people are a bunch of hypocrites.

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  50. i guess im d only one in the philippines dat owns a white doberman..as i have been breeding red,blue,isabella and black
    the thing is..if u breed an isabella with a red rust”my red rust’s mom is also an isabella” a white dobe might come out….which happened to me..”they r not even relatives!’..my white dobbie now is 7 yrs old..hes got no defects at all…hes got 2 balls,perfect eyesight..both eyes tested…no hearing defect..very clean stomach,very nice coat..his coat is a lil rough..not the usual ones dat is very flat on d skin, i did a stress test for him and he passed.. my other dobes r mad with cats ‘most dogs i guess” hehe but my white dobbie is friendly even with my hamster..:D i also have a cat and he goes along good with her…my other dobbies dont…

    i seriously cannot consider him a fault..as he can do what my other dobes can…HE IS BETTER actually..temperament wise..i can say my dobbie isnt as troubleome as my other “normal”colored dobes..not agressive..its like i own a shihtzu hahaha..:D:D

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  51. I’d never say to ‘put down’ a doberman that is born with the defect of being ‘white’ but this dog must be spayed or neutered as soon as possible and never bred. Birth defects don’t require you put the dog to sleep, but be responsible and educated. More educated people know about this so spread the word. Love your Doberman that was born ‘white’ but make sure to protect it from the sun, it’s eyes, skin, etc. Their nose is pink usually and skin. So they are very susceptible to sunburn, vision problems. etc. Most of all just LOVE your Doberman because they are very sensitive and require being close to their owners/families. They are NOT a dog you can put out in the backyard and ignore. NO DOG should be put outside like lawn furniture, but a Dobeman willl make your life hell if you think you can do that. 🙂

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  52. I have grown to love the Dobmerman due to their intelligence, loyalty and gorgeous looks. They are excellent for people with allergies in my humble opinion, very short hair, single coat (no undercoat) Very clean and almost ‘cat like’. I love that they require not coat clipping. Special consideration should be taken that the Dobermans nails are kept short so that their feet remain healthy and cat like when standing. Ear cropping is optional, however I like the appearance of the cut ears, it is illegal to cut the Dobermans ears in some European countries. I am an animal activist, but I still think it’s okay to cut their ears as long as it is done correctly and under anesthesia with great care taken to keep the dog out of pain and tending to the healing correctly. I have only had a female red & rust Doberman but look forward to welcoming a dynamic duo of a female and male to my home as soon as I’m able to. 🙂

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  53. A Doberman that is white is not ‘special’ in a good way. It is an albino full of health problems and should never be bred. It is a fault, there are only four allowed colors. Do not purchase a Doberman that is colored ‘white’ or that has any white relatives in their bloodline. Very important. Take it from someone who found out the hard way.

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  54. To Marcela Rodriguez; a friend had a blue dobie with skin issues you are experiencing. She used a Shaklee product called Basic H diluted in water. She bathed the dog in it and used in spray bottle as insect deterrent. She said it worked well. Only try something new on small part of animal at first as sensitivity issues are indivual to dog. Good luck!

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  55. PLEASE do research before you try to spout nonsense. “White” Doberman Punchers have NEVER been proven to be albino, and yes, white dobes can be show dogs in some countries, and, yes, there have been white champions, regardless of temperament. It’s been recorded that one champion white even bit his judge prior to winning. All white or mostly white dogs with short hair and pink or light colored skin are more prone to sun burn and skin cancer, this includes boxers, pit bulls, and terriers, which all can be solid white without albinism. Most of the diseases and illnesses recorded in white dobes are nearly constant in other breeds of dogs, regardless of coloration. Until scientific research is done to prove they are albinoid, you all have no right to bicker like children about a dog. It’s easier to do research than you think. There’s this awesome thing called Google, use it, and don’t just click on the first thing you see and read it. Study and actually thoroughly read what you find. Though this post will probably be burrows by more uneducated comments of “nu-uh’s” and “uh-huh’s” that one could read until they were blue in the face. Maybe one of you will actually finish reading this and do some of you’re own research. Also do research on white tigers, golden tabby tigers, and stripeless, white tigers, as well as Siamese cats and Himalayan rabbits, while you’re at it. All of which are not albinoid. I’m saying white dobes aren’t albinoid, but I’m saying it’s not fact. There’s also no such thing as partially albino. It’s like saying you’re partially pregnant. If an animal lacks pigment in one part of his body (like fur) and not in another (like eyes) it’s attributed to another genetic abnormality. Once more, white tigers come to mind. I took four semesters in genetic based studies just for shiggles; this stuff is easy to understand if you just READ.

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  56. I bought a albino dobe and had i known all the problems they have…i don’t think i would of.. I should of googled white dobes b4 i even thought about it but i didn’t and now to see what i have read about them i don’t know how these breader get away will mating them 🙁 It sickens me to think that this is so not fair to the bread..and how clueless sarah at the top of this page really is ugh.. go to the AKC home page and read what color eyes albinos have and all the probs they have 🙁 they can have up to 3 different colors in eye color…

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  57. I don’t agree with breeding whites at all. I have a fawn male and a white female, who’s previous owner relinquished her to us. She’s a doll, and we don’t have any issues, but it’s crap about her eyes being normal. A friggin moron would say their eyes are just like ours with normal sun sensitivity, she squints so bad in the sunlight, it looks painful. And she has bright pink skin that burns easily. We take our walks in the evening and she wears sunscreen if we have to be in the sun for extended periods of time. My fawn does have skin allergies, but we are able to keep it under control, with no hair loss and his coat is shiny. I love my babies period, but people just want what is unusual and what others dont have. I don’t know how many ppl have asked if I’m breeding my dogs, I want to look at them like are you crazy? I have a dog, so I should breed? I don’t think so. And Marcela Rodriguez, you might want to try fish oil and get your blue in to see a vet and or a dermatologist quickly to try and help his coat. Dilutes are a financial commitment that some people just don’t realize, and that’s why you see so many on Craigslist and rescue groups. Back to the people want the unusual, but don’t realize how much work comes with it.

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  58. I had a white male dobermen pinscher. His name was Logan. I don’t know if he was inbreed. He had not sight problems. My parents breed him with a rusty female doberman with tan markings who was not from the same bloodline as Logan and half of eights puppies were white the other half rusty-colored.

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  59. and I think that whatever the color they are, Doberman are freaking perfect and lovely. They are worth because of the love they give not because of how many contests they can win.

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  60. Hi! I own a blue doberman. It’s soooo cute but his skin is very sensitive and I would like to know if you can share some products to take car of it. I have to say that in some parts of its body there’s lack of hair and I want to know if there’s something to make it grow again. Thank you for your support I hope you can answer.

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  61. ANOTHER THING! I NEVER HAD ANY OF MY WHITES FAIL ANY OF THE TESTING OUT THERE…….NOT LIKE THE “ACCEPTED” COLORS!! I USE “Z” FACTOR DOGS IN MY CURRENT LINE AS THEY ARE BEAUTIFUL & EXCELLENT MINDED DOGS!

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  62. WHOMEVER WROTE OF THE WHITE DOBERMAN COLOR IS VERY BADLY INFORMED!!! I NO LONGER HAVE A WHITS DOBIE LIVING BUT WILL HAVE TO SAY THEY WERE SO MUCH BETTER WITH THE COATS THAN MOST DILUTE COLORS I HAVE EVER OWNED. THE WHITES NEVER HAD ANY ISSUES WITH BAD SKIN OR EYESIGHT OR HEARING! THEY WERE GORGEOUS DOGS WITH A UNIQUE COLOR FOUND IN A RECESSIVE GENE! NOT INBREEDING. THERE ARE MANY FINE DOGS OUT THERE BUT YOU GET VERY HORRIBLE COAT & SKIN CONDITIONS FROM THE DILUTE TO DILUTE COLOR BREEDINGS! NEVER EVER DID I SEE THAT IN ANY OF THE WHITE DOGS I CAME ACROSS!

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  63. I own a white Dobie and she’s the best dog I have ever had. I don’t understand why you people can’t accept a color. They are beautiful dogs and behave just as well as any other dobe. Also they are not albino they are like any other color variation.

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  64. i think whitedobielover has the most sense of anyone on here. i have owned dobermans for over 40 yrs and i can remember when this prejudice existed for the isabellas and the blues.

    shame on you who would cull a white pup, just because it is white….

    i have owned 4 of the 5 colors ( i have never owned a red) and i have to say that the whites and the blacks were the healthiest and had minimal problems. i currently own 3 whites (spayed/neutered) and couldnt be more pleased. their temperament/health/intelligence is a little more than average of all the dobes i have owned…. which makes them VERY smart. we all know that dobes are very intelligent.

    if those of you who preach about the health, etc of the whites, why dont yuo get updated material, scientific material, and quit making yourself look so foolish. your arguments are the same bullshit that the DPCA has been touting for years. get with the program and analyze science, instead of opinion and rumor.

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  65. Hey I do not breed dobermans but my neighbor does… I have researched the breed to the highest of levels cause I could not understand y she was hoping for a blue or white… Well we both share 7 acers and have one fence around the entire property… I breed wolf hybrids been doing so since I moved she breeds dobies and her brother breeds pitbulls. I can honestly say even thou pitbulls have a bad rep I have no problems with the pitbulls now the dobies I have a major problems with…her dobie attacks my cat and had my kid by the throat I know not all dobies are this way and I still love all dogs but if she was to have a white dobie that was inbreed somehow it highers the risk for innocent people to get hurt… I agree with people who say its not the dogs fault its the owner cause it is but I do not agree with the whole thing that if God made it it should be here God did not tell someone to make inbreed dobies. So get that idea out your head and just research the dog you get before you get it or ask ur local vet.

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  66. Reading through all these comments. I have to say I actually own 4 white Dobes and 4 white factored Dobermans. We have done all the testing that any breeder should do. We have beautiful, healthy dogs. We have never had a blind, or deaf puppy. All of our dogs are socialized and do not have temperment problems. I find it offensive that they are still so many people who have such “passionate” feelings on the subject can’t even do min. research. The whites are AKC. The AKC doesn’t decide the requirements for the “show ring” That would be the breed clubs. There has been “NO” testing done that would prove or disprove the albino theory. Which at this point is all it is. They are no “Documented” facts that say white Dobermans have more health problems than any other color Doberman. People expressed their hateful opinions here and actual owners mostly said that they have healthy white Dobermans. A beautiful White female Doberman placed in the last DPCA Nationals. These are all actual “facts” BTW We visit our vet often. LOL We have plenty of Dogs and it’s always time for someone’s check up or booster shots

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  67. What I find truly aweful about this entire string of comments to dates back to July of 2008 is the fact that there is so much venom and passion about the z factor dobies but it’s all a senseless argument.

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    December 11th, 2011 at 6:32 pm
    You people are freaking impaired if you think breeding a white/partial albino Doberman isn’t a terrible act. You’re a puppy mill just like breeders that breed for merle in Chihuahuas. Educate yourself, you freaking twelve-year-olds. I bet half of you owners with “healthy” white Dobies haven’t seen been to a vet more than three times with that dog. People like you need to be shot.

    That is most definitely venom and passion. Realistically, none of this makes a difference. I’ve owned nothing but dobermans for 30 years and I have owned and rescused every color, including the z factor whites. I have seen heathly specimens of ALL of the colors and I’ve seen all of the colors have health or temperament issues. Any of my sickly pooches see the vet often and my healthy ones visit the vet twice a year for check ups and boosters. I’ve had them live to be 15 and some only make it to 4 or 5. Killing white pups at birth doesn’t remove the z factor from the line, which is clearly evident. The dilute colors were frowned upon in their beginning as well. This will continue to happen due to the affluent culture and the preferences of people. The evolution of dogs is extremely rapid and at the descretion of their human counterparts. If you don’t understand what I’m talking about, reasearch the original european bulldogs. They were gorgeous animals will massive abilities and they have been evolved into the short, squat English bulldogs we know today only because of the breeding. This will continue to happen regardless of how many people are advocates for or against a particular trait.

    What would actually be beneficial is if all of the passionate people that felt the need to express their explosive opinions on this article actually got together and tried to make an argument collectively to have the dobermans removed from the aggressive dog lists that affect housing. Perhaps if people quit trying to stop what every one is doing and started promoting responsible pet ownership, first and foremost, maybe more people would be able to enjoy the breed.

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  68. to clear up the debate on albino dobermans. “The white doberman pinscher was created from inbreeding and are considered partial albino dobermans.” This statement does NOT say “all PARTIAL albino dobermans are created from inbreeding.” nor does state “all white dobermans are FULL albino.” Any animal created from inbreeding is prone to health issues. Also, the skin/eye color isn’t a qualifying factor for albinism just a sign of the trait. Just because you read one article, dont take it for fact.

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  69. You people are freaking impaired if you think breeding a white/partial albino Doberman isn’t a terrible act. You’re a puppy mill just like breeders that breed for merle in Chihuahuas. Educate yourself, you freaking twelve-year-olds. I bet half of you owners with “healthy” white Dobies haven’t seen been to a vet more than three times with that dog. People like you need to be shot.

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  70. What about the thyroid condition that Dobe’s get? It almost kllled my dog and I was not told what to watch out for..Needless to say she and my Mom take the same pill, lucky for me.

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  71. As an answer to Sara and all others who think white is cool and don’t believe websites like http://dpca.org/albino/albino_about.htm
    Sara : there is nothing wrong with white dobermans. ….. if there is something wrong with it, it’s not because of its color.

    No. the dogs aren’t genetical cripples because of the color. the color is just one, if very obvious, sign that there is something wrong. not the cause, no, but a symptom of a cause. the cause is called interbreeding.
    to begin with, all breeders regardless of the creature they breed should start thinking about what they do: the modify little helpless lifes and cause much suffering.
    do i believe a doberman with an expected life span of 10 years that is prone to hypothyroidism, heart murmur, bloat and god knows what else and that has had ears and tail-chopped off is better up than a white doberman? or a sheppherd dog or a wiener?
    In my eyes, it’s a crime to nature to breed anything like that. It disgusts me deeply. I am living with a little companion that is pure bred, that should be POOR BREAD!

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  72. Ok to all the white haters DO YOUR RESEARCH! Whites have been around for a very long time! The only reason you didnt see them until recently was because breeders culled them drowned them or broke their necks as soon as they were born. You people that are for that are disgusting and as for the health problems duh people watch your breeders inbred dogs do have health problems no matter what the color and as for the dpca they only have bad things to say about the whites because they are disgusting and kill the whites to i have done extensive research as far as even going thru old records registrations and clippings they descended from greyhounds as well as multiple other breeds do your research before you say people are disgusting for breeding whites you are disgusting for helping in the bad rap they get and in getting killed at birth for it none of you are true dog lovers

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  73. Well I am the Proud owner and friend of one black and rust, one blue and rust, one red and rust, and two isabella (fawn) and rust Dobermans.

    I’ve been reading the whole situation about the albino dobermans. I believe that Albinos should not be bred but i am not an advocate of euthanizing them. An owner of an Albino should realize that they need to spay or neuter the animal as soon as possible. I also belive that dobermans that carry the albino trait should not be bred even if they are a champion. With the AKC you will know if the doberman has the possibility of having the recessive trait due to the Z attached to the end of the registration number. Also if you purchase an albino doberman you are getting ripped off. When you purchase puppies the price is based on quality of desired traits. So champions and show winner puppies will cost more than you pet quality doberman. So if you go by that logic albinos are free since it cant even be showed at competitions. well those are my to bits.

    oh and Dobermans are the best dogs in the world 🙂

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  74. I didn’t buy a white Dobe but I did just adopt one when our local shelter had to be evacuated and she needed somewhere to go for a few days and I just couldn’t bring her back. She’s very sweet and affectionate about 6 month old. her eyes are sensitive to the sun and she does seem to have a somewhat sensitive stomach.

    Does anyone have any suggestions on what to feed her??She starts her puppy training tonight!

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    • Joan thanks for helping this dobe 🙂
      As far as food for upset stomachs, usually vets recommend something like plain rice and chicken. You can easily make this yourself or call a few vets for other suggestions.

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  75. People that breed white dobermans are disgusting & the people who are buying them are too! It is a FACT they are prone to way more health problems than the other color variations. Does that NOT send a red flag right there? Sure, some may be loving, intelligent, and even have no health problems; however, the majority of them do. I would never say put the white dobermans down, they ARE dogs, but to purposely keep trying to breed white dobies and keep the color going is completely irresponsible.
    To the guy that said the bull mastiff came about by interbreeding other bull mastiffs — you are an idiot. So what if it was, so what if all breeds came about that way? For centuries man has made MANY, MANY dog breeds, and so what if they were interbred? Why should we try to start a new color to a breed we ALREADY have, and make the white dobies we have now suffer with genetic/health problems so that MAYBE one day the white dobie gene pool will be dilluted enough so that they only have the same health problems as the other colored dobermans?

    WHY are people so concerned with LOOKS and COLOR, there are already many different colors of dobies and if you breed white ones or want white ones — YOU ARE A DISGRACE.

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  76. ok, not all white dobes are unhelthy. i have an albino dob and a black on they both get the same food and go to the dog park 4 times a week and my white one is more helthy then my black and tan

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  77. O”k this is crazy! i did some research and the original dam did have a white and the male pup (yes male) was breed with sis litter mates to keep getting the white color.
    I am not intowhite vs. albino thing but i had a blue with skinproblems bt he was my dog. my first time breeding a dobe i got black, red, fawn, white and cream. and this was n the warly 80’s. I want all the colors i may breed i may not breed, but as with any thing line breeding can cause problems. But let us think about this line breeding. In the begining there was only adam and eve…..they had kids one died so how do we have billions of people if we did not practice inceset at one time should we have stopped because one of us had 6 fingers, lighter skin, stomach problems, or even had multiple births? I am a dark skinned person i hve stomach problems, light sensitivity, and sometimes i dont behave like i should….should i be assisted with death because of it? if my husband has alergies and so do i should we not have children? Yes i agree dont breed for a color (but i do want a white) but for temperment and health i have seen dobies that are just ill tempered in any color. No i dont want a dog that has temper problems but i like the varitiey of colors. I realy think breeding 2 whites is where the problem comes in. In my opinion if yo decide to breed the it should be a “z” to a “non-z” this is just me and i know that somebody will chew me out behind it but “we” all humans come from 2 people. and vet bill are just that vet bill make a payment arrangment or start paying the vet before yu get the dobie and have a credit before the health issues arrise or pet health insurance

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  78. Breeding white dobermans is like defecating in your own gene pool. Except it’s all our gene pool to share. How much pain is tolerated so someone can have a “cool” looking dog? It’s ignorance of the worst kind. common sense be damned.

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  79. I grew up with black and tan dobermans from the age of 3, I now have a beautiful fawn and tan called Senya who literally stops traffic! I am looking for a blue and tan puppy to join her but the only litter I have found seems to be for a lady that has v negative feedback from. Does anyone know of a reputable blue and tan breeder in the UK as I don’t believe shipping a puppy from the states is good.
    Thanks

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  80. i have a white doverman and he is very loving hes six years old no health problem until last week he started falling like his front claws wants to turn in while he walks has anyone every had this proble please let meknow?
    But to everyone that has question about wanting to buy one i just like to say the are special its like having a special child they cant see good in sun light late afternoon best for him’and to those that say put them down do you put special children down!

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  81. i hav a red doberman right now and i luv her to death and once one of my dogs die we might get a blue doberman do u hav any suggestions otherwise

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  82. People
    you are forgetting one thing
    Dobermanns where breed from Weimaraners
    So Isabella color and the variations- it is totally normal considering this )))))

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  83. possibly the most frustrating comment thread in history… all I have to say is this – first – the dogs that exist, I’m sure they’re all wonderful. I’m not for one second saying they’re not great dogs and I’m sure you love them. I’m a trainer & I deal with head cases and dogs bred for looks that are nothing but looks all the time. Regardless of anything else – it is a well documented FACT that these white “Dobermans” are predestined for medical and/or mental issues at a shockingly high percentage compared to all other colors. Any reputable Dobe breeder will react with horror at the idea of continued or purposed breeding of these poor dogs. If at some point the color can come about without promoting bad health and temperament, then that’s great. I don’t want to see an outstanding breed tarnished by this uneducated, irresponsible behavior. It’s despicable. Please, it’s been said before in this thread – you are online – use google, educate yourself about this subject!!! You’ll see for yourself the conclusion and stance that the Doberman community has taken on this.

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  84. I am proud to say I own a white doberman male one of the best i have ever had as a companion I also have kids and he thinks he is one of them. He has had no health problems very easy trained. As far as the akc lots of dogs that ar registered with them now did not start out with them they accept new breeds all the time. Myself I dont like akc I would rather deal with A.P.R.I. any day they dont want to break your bank every time you deal with them. I have had alot of dobermans over the years all colors the color does not make the dog what makes the dog is how you raise it train it love it and socialize them. You need to remember all dogs came from the wolf and though breeding such as line breeding and inbreeding we have a wide variety of dogs some good some not so good but they all deserve our love and care no matter what.

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  85. I am not a dog breeder or trainer, nor have I too much experience raising dogs. I am certainly responsible with dogs and have a lot of experience around them, I was raised with them.

    I want my future Doberman to have the best foundation of development and training, something that I fear I will not be able to provide myself.

    So my question is this- If I send my puppy to a very nice behavioral/ obedience/ training school, how well will my Doberman re-integrate into the household?

    A second question- I am single with no kids, if I get married and have kids, how is the Doberman’s temperment with learning to live with more people after probably a few years with just me?

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    • Hello Michael, I too am not a breeder/trainer but I am now on dobe number 3 and have worked with them as security dogs. I would say it’s do-able with certain preparation.
      My advice is to start with a doberman that has excellent genetics/temperament. When you visit a breeder, ask to see the mother and father to judge their “friendliness” and get references. Also when you see a wonderfully behaved dobe in public, ask the owner what breeder it’s from. Then of course laying a good foundation of basic obedience is essential, that’s fine if someone else teaches the basics but when the pup comes home to you it needs to feel confidence and trust that you’re the alpha leader now. Some people are better at this than others and some dogs (regardless of breed) are easier to train than others. There will of course be some adjustment as the dog learns what’s expected in it’s new house. Read all you can about dog behaviour to understand things from their point of view. As far as going from a one person house to a family environment this is doable if the dog is socialized around children. This socialization needs to continue even after puppy-hood on a consistent basis. Exposure to children is essential to even an adult dog. Use it or loose it.
      If you regularly have visitors over to the house, this should do. The dog should respect who the alpha leader/you decide is allowed into your house or “pack”. Hope this helps with your decision making.

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  86. About 15 yrs ago when I still lived in the US (Virginia) I was introduced to a breeder of white Dobes. He claimed because of the blue eyes that they were not albinos and had a fair amount of references from happy owners who claimed they had no uncommon problems. HOWEVER I have also read a vast number of reports from people who claim to have skin, eye, stomach, and bone issues with their whites.

    If I ever have a white it will be a rescue. I would not buy one and encourage their breeding. There are just to many reports of health risks, and all just so you can have one in a white color. Personally I think the standard colors are quite beautiful but then I’m a bit biased as my “Princess” is a red.

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  87. i think that we should do what is best for the breed . it seems like we should not make arguments to support our own particular interest . meaning dont split hairs over whether or not its albino , or white when making a decision of to breed or not to breed . if these dogs , and i say if mind you have more health , and behaviour problems than the other dobermans please dont breed these white dogs . please dont make more problems than the breed already has ! just because you think they look cute does not mean that the dog is comfortable when his health problems persist and flair up . it seems like common sense that you should never ever breed a white doberman ! on the othe hand i think that they do have a right to live if you the owner can afford all the high vet bills than you can enjoy your white , albino dibe as your pet . remember please dont be a moron and breed these dogs ever !

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    • thankyou Anthony, we need to do what’s best for the breed in the long term and I’m pretty sure Mr. Louis Dobermann did not want the white dobermans entering the lineage.

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  88. Actually, any real research will show that white Dobermans are not albino. This matter was also of large debate with the German shepherd, which was later accepted. Not only is the white Doberman not albino, but ALL health problems that have been found in white dobermans can be found in other colors as well except for skin sensitivity which is found in all short haired white dogs. The white Doberman is not an inbred retard but a beautiful color variation of the Doberman breed.

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  89. Ok,
    I think it needs to be said… that while whites are beautiful, intelligent, loving and just as wonderful as any other color of dobe, the akc doesn’t accept them.
    its not that they are bad dogs… yall need to get off your high horses… just understand that as far as breed standard is concerned they are frowned upon…
    everyone is taking offense to that… why?
    It’s just a fact… AKC doesn’t want them in the gene pool…. standing up for the standard is what keeps our dobes as wonderful as they are… furthering a trait that isn’t considered “correct” (yeah … if you love them its correct) then you might as well cross that awesome dobe with that great confirmation intelligence and temperament with a mutt. I love my dobes the way they are… I stick to breed standard, so as not to change the breed, and possibly further the health problems so many have….
    my first dobe was white, I rescued him, he was def, and blind in one eye, as well he was a fear biter, he passed at only 3 years of age due to cancer… some people get lucky with health issues… I was informed of problems and gave home the best home I could.
    I also understand that just because they are here doesn’t mean you should TRY to breed them. if they POP up, that’s one thing… but don’t be an irresponsible breeder and try for a dog that will diminish the breed standard.

    they are all incredible dogs… just be responsible.

    stupid is real common around here eh?

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  90. My uncle had a albino doberman for 15 years and was the best dog ever. Ya’ll need to learn how to take care of dogs and shut up.

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  91. what color puppies will a blue female doberman and a black and tan male doberman most likely produce? just curious. thanks

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  92. wow…i totally agree with flower. It’s like saying you dont like people of colour. What does it matter what colour a dog is. People adopt children from other countries and still love them the same. It’s just the colour of the dog……HEllo it’s still a DOBERMAN! I have one of every colour and i don’t see the difference they play the same, love the same, eat the same, and bark the same.

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  93. I have a Blue doberman, white doberman and Black and Tan Doberman and I think the white and blue are better dogs then the black and tan. The blue and white are both puppies from are black and tans it is in there back ground so what are you trying to say these puppies don`t deserve to live what kind of animal lover are you You know who you are

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  94. i have a dobe,her father is black and his mother is red.how did my dobe becomes golden brown?i mean pure golden brown.i searched the web but i can’t find answers…please someone give ideas about this…thanks!!!

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  95. For those who say albino’s have red eyes, are very misinformed. Albinism is a congenital disorder characterized by the complete or partial absence of pigment in the skin, hair and eyes due to absence or defect of an enzyme involved in the production of melanin. Blue eyes is actually a lack of pigment in the iris. These dogs eyes are quite large and thus produces enough pigment to lend opacity to the eye, often colouring the iris pale blue. However, there are cases in which the eyes of an albinistic animal appear red or purple, depending on the amount of pigment present. Some albino animals do have red or pink eyes because of the lack of pigmentation, what you are seeing the the blood behind their eyes.

    Not all white dobermans will have skin issues, and other health issues. But most of them will. If you have a white and healthy doberman consider yourself lucky.

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  96. Anyone who wants to buy an albino doberman, please visit the Doberman Pincher Club of America and read on the Albino Doberman. http://dpca.org/albino/albino_about.htm The website also has a lot of information for anyone wanting information about the Dobermans. The Albino doberman is NOT a WHITE doberman. There is no such thing as a white doberman. If you have an Albino you should love it like you would any dog. However it is discouraged to breed these Dobermans because of their health issues. People who breed Albino dobermans only care about the money and not the breed, they sell them for more money saying they are “rare”.

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  97. White dobermans came from 1 dog…I repeat…1 dog…whos children were repeatedly bred back to her until more were produced.

    AKC registered the first one…it is a purebred…but it is not allowed to show…just because it says AKC doesn’t make it right.

    Bottom line…its irresponsible to propagate unhealthy breeding. Its not fair to the animals first and foremost. Second its not fair to the unknowing animal lover out there who ends up with said unhealthy animal.

    Dobermans are beautiful…proud…noble…intelligent dogs and deserve the best we can give them…and breeding them to be sickly and have health problems is NOT the best we can give them.

    Shame on anyone who does.

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  98. Have some bad news for people that are upset about white dobies being the result of inbreeding. Brace yerselves for it… ALMOST ALL PUREBRED DOGS ARE THE PRODUCT OF INBREEDING! Somewher down the line, someone decided to select for certain traits, and breed for said traits. That means a very shallow gene pool to start out with. Take for example the Bullmastiff. Today an incredibly regal and majestic dog. However we can trace it’s roots back to the late 19th century whence it was bred to halt poachers on gamekeepers land.They tried the English Mastiff; Too passive: poachers got away. They tried the Bulldogge (the original, not the chunky lil chap with respiratory problems that people are ga-ga over today); Too vicious: tore the poachers to shreds before they could hang them as an example. VOILA!!! They interbred the two and then bred the offspring (for several generations, I might add) and out popped what is in my opinion the finest canine ever produced. The white dobie has long since outgrown the initial inbreeding through which the breed was developed,as the Bullmastiff once did. That is why the AKC registers them (albeit with the distinguishable Z designation much in part to the decrying of folks whonm think they are much smarter than they are in the area of all things wise and wonderful). Of course, as is the case with ANY short haired whit dog, there are limitatipns to sun exposure, much the same as with fair-haired humans-They both sunburn easily. No-brainer. In the next 15 to 20 years, folks will be bucked off of their high-horses, and the Z designation will be dropped in the AKC registration, and people will be free to love these animals as they should and not revile.

    Furthermore, whilst I don’t as of yet own one… I think I shall purchase one just to chagrin the louts that scream so loudly about topics such as this, illegal immigrants taking their jobs, and globak warming being an utter farce.
    Brian

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  99. For General information:

    The white coloring of a Doberman IS the result of a genetic mutation. It does not necessarily mean that there is anything wrong with the dog itself. From what i have learned over the years, and from my families history with dobermans, the coloring can be an issue. It is not accepted by AKC for show (though the dog can still be registered and bred- although this practice is frowned upon) Although labeling the dogs albino or even partial is a common misunderstanding. The genetic mutation that occurs to create the white coat is not the same of that that occurs in albino dogs. There is alot of controversy on this subject. And all anyone can do is take the best care of their animal as possible. : )

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  100. I have a comment about the white doberman puppies. I have owned a white puppy because my red female and black and tan male made 4 white puppies. The white puppies are not a MUTATION GENE that has never been proven and is a lie. The white doberman I kept has never had any health problems in the four years I have owned her. The vet told me the breeders usually put the white puppies to sleep and any animal lover would not do such a thing. The vet could not give me any reason not to keep the puppies or give them away to people who might want or even to sale the puppies. If white dobermans were not meant to exist God would not have produced them. The white doberman is obedient and beautiful also good with my children. She has always lived inside out of the sun. People should not judge what God has made just because they are wrong.

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  101. I own a white Dobeman “Tierra” who is now 7 years old. She is the best dog that I have ever owned. She does not have any health problems what so ever! Great skin and coat, awesome temperment, etc… As with any dog, problems are caused by poor breeding. Research your breeder!

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  102. The breeding of the albino Doberman is disgusting and anyone who supports this interbreeding is also disgusting! And I say albino because it is not a colour it is the complete opposite a lack of colour I would never entertain a breeder of the albino Doberman and those breeders who describe the dog as rare and desirable are idiots that have no interest in healthy dogs just lining their pockets it makes me feel sick. there is no need to look into the genetics of the dog to prove the breeding is all wrong just looking at the dog should be proof enough. I am a veterinary nurse and kennel club registered Doberman breeder in the UK. Breeding of the fawn and blue is accepted by kennel club although most breeders do not breed these colours or see them as questionable but the so called “white” is a massive NO NO! The dogs are victim to bad breeding which is upsetting and should be stopped.

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  103. Hello to all, my family and myself have bred and raised Dobermans for over 40 years. We mainly have had Black, Red and Isabella colored Dobermans, although we have a 3 year old White bitch named Saint. White dobermans are actually light cream main colored with white markings. They do have blue eyes and excellent eye sight. Saint is very intelligent, has a great thick coat, and has absolutely no hearing problems. Her eyes are a little sensitive to bright light until they adjust. She has had no health problems and we will be breeding her. I recommend anyone buying a White Doberman to search for AKC registered dogs.

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  104. I have had dobes for over 20 years blks, blue, and now white, i must be lucky because my wht dobe is a big lovable dog with no health problems. people are intitled to their own opinons though. i will admit he does squent in direct sunlight but so does every human being. i will also say that certain people should’nt be allowed to breed either (like know it alls that are never happy with their own lives) but they do. good people raise good dogs. a colored or non colored dogs are only going to be as well behaved as the owners. by the way you will have some health issues with all animals they are a living thing that takes just as much care as most children

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  105. I have a albino he is the best dog that i ever had . So smart and loves attention. Knock on wood no problems for him. I do believe that they do have a soft stomach . So whats the right dog food or treats to feed them

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  106. In most mammals (including humans) true albinos have pink eyes because they have no pigment at all. The genes are often recessive: a parent carrying a gene won’t show any sign that they have it. It takes two copies of the gene to be an albino.

    In horses, there’s something called partial albinism. A horse with partial albinism has a cream-coloured coat, white mane and tail and blue eyes. They have a small amount of pigment, which makes the coat cream and the eyes blue.

    To be a partial albino, the horse needs two copies of the partial albino gene. If the horse has only one gene, it makes the underlying colour paler. A red (also called sorrel or chestnt) horse becomes pale gold (also called palomino or isobella).

    I wonder if this is what happens with dobermanns. Ie, If a black dog has one partial ablbinism gene, it becomes blue. If it has two, it bcomes white.

    If a red dog has one partial albinism gene, it becomes isabella/fawn. If it has two, it becomes white.

    What do the breeders think?

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  107. Nick I think all dogs are pack animals that don’t like being left alone, this includes dobes. Personally I work long shifts and what works for me is that I have two dobes to keep each other company. They get alot of play time together running and wrestling in the fenced yard (like 3-4 hours) then when it’s time for me to leave for work they are so tired, they naturally will fall asleep inside the house. Also don’t give them free rein of the house, maybe just the kitchen or a bedroom, just in case they get into trouble if bored, (use a baby gate). Kongs with peanut butter are great too, but these only last so long. Hope this helps you decide.

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  108. My name is nick. i am wanting to buy a doberman puppy as a pet because i have heard how intellegent and easily trainable they are. plus i have always wanted a bigger dog that i could run around and play with in the back yard. i have been reading up on the breed since i have never owned one, and have found alot of good information about them. however one thing that i have seen on most of the websites is that they do not like to be left alone for long periods of time, even in fenced in back yards. this makes sence, but i also have to work for a living. my biggest fear is the dog getting and then him getting into mischef while im at work. plus i want to keep him as happy as i can once i get one. i want to know what i can do to make his time better when he has to be alone. are there any kinds of toys or things i can leave in that would give him the stimulation that i have heard they need while im at work? let me no what you do for your dobes while your away. thank you.

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  109. Regarding the albinism debate and eye color: albinism can be partial in mammals (and also birds, even wild ones), and can come from various mutations in the genome. An animal can have albino skin & hair, but still have normal eye color; this is called partial albinism. The animal is still considered an albino, however, because it carries an albinistic mutation. Sometimes the mutation is harmful, sometimes it is not. Siamese cats are a classic example of a harmless albino mutation; they are genetically albino, but the mutation only affects the hair, and it is temperature-dependent. The mutation producing the albino color only functions at high temperature, hence the hair close to the body (where temps are warm) is albino, and the hair at the cooler extremities (ears, face, tail) reverts to the default color of the cat (usually the classic dark color, but sometimes orange, etc. based on what color genes are dominant). If inbreeding or line breeding is used in any breed of animal to create an albino animal, there is a good chance that the animal will have health problems because of harmful recessive traits that crop up with the subsequent lack of genetic diversity. Spontaneous albino mutations can potentially occur in any mammal (i.e. albino from parents with no albinistic mutations), but they are very, VERY rare.

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  110. I actually own a beautiful white doberman named Kapone and he is my baby. He is very gentle and extremely good with children. But I will say that i have never spent so much money on vet bills on any dog I’ve ever owned in my life. Not only has he got sensitive skin, he has stomach problems as well. We also own a blue female and she has been much easier to take care of. I was not aware of the health problems white dobermans have and if i had I may not have gotten him. But health problems or no, like I said he is my baby, I love him sooo much and I wouldnt trade him for the world. Even if he is expensive to keep healthy.

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  111. Sarah: I have to agree, albinos have red eyes not blue…so that kind of confuses me (Only on this subject because I wanted a little bit of advise before getting a white Doberman. They are very pretty, but I think now Im having a few doubts.) The only reason I am writing is because as I was reading through I found one message that said “get rid of the whites no time for bad dogs” writen by “miller”! I found that message not helpful in the least, being a person just looking for information on a dog I like. As far as what information you’ve given, I believe there is no such thing as a bad dog but there is such thing as a bad owner. Treat them right and the will do the same. So see “miller” to make my point your message was not only informationless to me and everyone else, it was also showing how much of a dog lover you are not,If you were you would be giving information on the health issues and such like everyone else. Maybe you should think about that before commenting on another animal site.

    Thanks,
    Marie

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  112. RE: SARAH- please you are uninformed. The skin is Red/pink not the eyes. yes they are blue but that does not mean the dog is “white” it is ALBINO, there is no such thing as a white Doberman. Albino is not a variation of color it is a lack of color. Anyone who tries to sell an Albino Doberman has an inferrior breeding program, they are culls. While they may appear striking they have skin problems and are prone to sun burn. They cannot be shown and you will NEVER EVER find a Champion Albino Doberman.

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  113. There is a problem with the white dobe. It is born out of inbreeding. Ppl should not be breeding these animals. As far as loving them as a dog, absolutely. But it is not good for the breed’s future to perpetuate this mutation. They have KNOWN health issues far beyond the regular dobe. If you are uninformed pls get informed before speaking on the subject. Ppl who breed these animals are only concerned about earning $$ and not the animals.

    As for good foods there are so many nowadays. I use Innova Red Meat food for my dog and healthy ppl food and he is healthy as a horse.

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  114. there is nothing wrong with white dobermans. they are not albino their eyes are blue. albinos have pink eyes. they are just another color variation such as the red or blue. if there is something wrong with it, it’s not because of its color.

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  115. i have a question i have a blue dover and i want to know whats good to giveum so they can be strong,i’m giving him yukanuba what do u request for him thanks

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  116. The albinos are very hard to take care of i wish people would quit breeding them. I have a male isabella named Apollo and a femal black and tan named annie we are expecting puppies any day now!!

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