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		<title>By: Wheelygirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wheelygirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2012 01:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sorry but this is all so sick.  Why on earth do you mutilate your dogs this way?  For fashion? Because everyone does it?  Stop being sheep for goodness sake!

A natural Dobe with a long tail &amp; beautiful floppy ears is stunning.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry but this is all so sick.  Why on earth do you mutilate your dogs this way?  For fashion? Because everyone does it?  Stop being sheep for goodness sake!</p>
<p>A natural Dobe with a long tail &amp; beautiful floppy ears is stunning.</p>
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		<title>By: Yankee in Canada</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yankee in Canada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 22:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We&#039;ve had dobermans as pets for over 20 years now and most of them already had ears done.  We had one male we adopted at 12 wks of age with still natural ears.  Because of his age we knew 12 wks was probably too late to crop the ears so we left them natural.  We had this dog until old age when a year or so back we finally had to put him down because of health issues.  I can tell you, he was truly a character with those long ears!  He would stand outside sometimes in the wind and the ears would flip back and reminded us so much of the cartoon Rocky &amp; Bulwinkle with Rocky&#039;s &#039;cap&#039;.  Unfortuneately from about age nine until he died, we had to clean out his ears sometimes twice daily.  This really pained him but his ears would get so dirty inside that it had to be done.  Our vet sold us special ear cleaning medicine, etc. which did help but when I think back on it, maybe we should have cropped his ears.  We had another male blue dobe before that from about age 6 wks which we took back to the breeder who did the ear cropping at about 8 wks and inspite of infection which did clear up with cleaning and medicine, the dog&#039;s ears came out beautifully.  He was a 120 lb dog in his hayday but died at age 8 of enlarged heart which we were unaware of.  All the others have had cropped ears, two of which we took care of ourselves with the taping, etc.  and they all had good ears and no further problems.  So I guess I am on the fence about cropping.  Zeus suffered so much from those &#039;dirty&#039; long ears when he got older that I think I would err on the side of cropping.  I have not heard anyone else with natural eared dobe that had this problem so maybe it was genetic or something.  And with all our dogs the taping only took a few months, not a year however we never had the show-crop done so I can understand that may take longer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve had dobermans as pets for over 20 years now and most of them already had ears done.  We had one male we adopted at 12 wks of age with still natural ears.  Because of his age we knew 12 wks was probably too late to crop the ears so we left them natural.  We had this dog until old age when a year or so back we finally had to put him down because of health issues.  I can tell you, he was truly a character with those long ears!  He would stand outside sometimes in the wind and the ears would flip back and reminded us so much of the cartoon Rocky &amp; Bulwinkle with Rocky&#8217;s &#8216;cap&#8217;.  Unfortuneately from about age nine until he died, we had to clean out his ears sometimes twice daily.  This really pained him but his ears would get so dirty inside that it had to be done.  Our vet sold us special ear cleaning medicine, etc. which did help but when I think back on it, maybe we should have cropped his ears.  We had another male blue dobe before that from about age 6 wks which we took back to the breeder who did the ear cropping at about 8 wks and inspite of infection which did clear up with cleaning and medicine, the dog&#8217;s ears came out beautifully.  He was a 120 lb dog in his hayday but died at age 8 of enlarged heart which we were unaware of.  All the others have had cropped ears, two of which we took care of ourselves with the taping, etc.  and they all had good ears and no further problems.  So I guess I am on the fence about cropping.  Zeus suffered so much from those &#8216;dirty&#8217; long ears when he got older that I think I would err on the side of cropping.  I have not heard anyone else with natural eared dobe that had this problem so maybe it was genetic or something.  And with all our dogs the taping only took a few months, not a year however we never had the show-crop done so I can understand that may take longer.</p>
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		<title>By: Steph</title>
		<link>http://dobermansden.com/dobermanearcropping/comment-page-3/#comment-166484</link>
		<dc:creator>Steph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 05:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have just over a 2 month old pup who just got her ears cropped. I&#039;m probable just being paranoid, but, she keeps on scratching @ her cone, is there any way I can get her to stop scratching?? My vet didn&#039;t give me any pain killers or anything. Did anybody else not give their pup pain killers? Also, the vet said to keep the wrapping on for 4-5 days, but to keep them clean &amp; dry. Is it normal to have some blood on the wrapping? Is it ok to keep it like that for 4-5 days?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have just over a 2 month old pup who just got her ears cropped. I&#8217;m probable just being paranoid, but, she keeps on scratching @ her cone, is there any way I can get her to stop scratching?? My vet didn&#8217;t give me any pain killers or anything. Did anybody else not give their pup pain killers? Also, the vet said to keep the wrapping on for 4-5 days, but to keep them clean &amp; dry. Is it normal to have some blood on the wrapping? Is it ok to keep it like that for 4-5 days?</p>
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		<title>By: Reddobielover</title>
		<link>http://dobermansden.com/dobermanearcropping/comment-page-3/#comment-157975</link>
		<dc:creator>Reddobielover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2012 17:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I had my baby boy&#039;s ears done at 12 weeks old. The vet and staff at Eastside Animal Hospital in Indpls.,IN did an outstanding job. The cost of the crop included all tapings until the vet and I were happy. He basically had them taped for ten days after surgery then removed tape and let them rest for a week before taping again. He alternated tape for a week and rest for a week until they were standing the way that they should. My baby&#039;s ears were standing in about a eight weeks. All the staff there seem to love my baby and he adores them. I&#039;ve never seen a dog so happy to pull up at the vets office. Unfortunately, but fortunately, I got laid off about the time he got his ears done so I was home with him alot. I was able to keep scratching to a minimum which I believe resulted in quicker healing time. He is gorgeous and I wouldn&#039;t trade him or Eastside Animal Hospital for the world.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had my baby boy&#8217;s ears done at 12 weeks old. The vet and staff at Eastside Animal Hospital in Indpls.,IN did an outstanding job. The cost of the crop included all tapings until the vet and I were happy. He basically had them taped for ten days after surgery then removed tape and let them rest for a week before taping again. He alternated tape for a week and rest for a week until they were standing the way that they should. My baby&#8217;s ears were standing in about a eight weeks. All the staff there seem to love my baby and he adores them. I&#8217;ve never seen a dog so happy to pull up at the vets office. Unfortunately, but fortunately, I got laid off about the time he got his ears done so I was home with him alot. I was able to keep scratching to a minimum which I believe resulted in quicker healing time. He is gorgeous and I wouldn&#8217;t trade him or Eastside Animal Hospital for the world.</p>
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		<title>By: catharine</title>
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		<dc:creator>catharine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2012 17:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hi just got my 11 week old dobe cropped its been 1 day and the vet sent me home with a sponge glued between the ears and stitches uncovered to heal faster&gt; l was told to put polysporin on them 3-5 times a day clean with clue tip dipped in alcolhol rubbing or a saline..7 days l can remove stiches, if the sponge comes off 1 ear ,,take netted gauze and vet tape it back to sponge or remove all togther ..but the longer the sponge stays on this is keeping or training ears to stay up.so far so good.. all is a little red but can be expected 1 day after surgery. as for the wrooy of scratchin the stitches out l tried socks on feet hand made ring fabrics full of soft socks..and now l have a plastic cone on head which they didnt recomend because the weight of it pulls ears forward. but lm only worrying about the incision at the moment for the first 7-10 days and infection of course!!.....anyone for suggestions lm all EARS!!! please.. my first time but l want to know all ins and outs thank you]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi just got my 11 week old dobe cropped its been 1 day and the vet sent me home with a sponge glued between the ears and stitches uncovered to heal faster&gt; l was told to put polysporin on them 3-5 times a day clean with clue tip dipped in alcolhol rubbing or a saline..7 days l can remove stiches, if the sponge comes off 1 ear ,,take netted gauze and vet tape it back to sponge or remove all togther ..but the longer the sponge stays on this is keeping or training ears to stay up.so far so good.. all is a little red but can be expected 1 day after surgery. as for the wrooy of scratchin the stitches out l tried socks on feet hand made ring fabrics full of soft socks..and now l have a plastic cone on head which they didnt recomend because the weight of it pulls ears forward. but lm only worrying about the incision at the moment for the first 7-10 days and infection of course!!&#8230;..anyone for suggestions lm all EARS!!! please.. my first time but l want to know all ins and outs thank you</p>
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		<title>By: Gretchen</title>
		<link>http://dobermansden.com/dobermanearcropping/comment-page-3/#comment-142428</link>
		<dc:creator>Gretchen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2012 07:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have rescued 2 young adult dobies and think they are absolutely wonderful.  One has cropped ears and the other has the natural ears.  My vet (and another vet I used to take them to before he moved) said that the ONLY reason to crop the ears is for show.  Both felt that it was unnecessary surgery that puts any animal at risk for infection and even possible death.  I can not tell any difference in the hearing of either dog.  Actually, the natural ears show more expression (and that dog is more aggressive).  I can&#039;t imagine putting a puppy through any unnecessary pain just for appearance.  I pray that any &quot;for appearance&quot; surgery be outlawed.  Please think about the innocent puppies who have no voice.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have rescued 2 young adult dobies and think they are absolutely wonderful.  One has cropped ears and the other has the natural ears.  My vet (and another vet I used to take them to before he moved) said that the ONLY reason to crop the ears is for show.  Both felt that it was unnecessary surgery that puts any animal at risk for infection and even possible death.  I can not tell any difference in the hearing of either dog.  Actually, the natural ears show more expression (and that dog is more aggressive).  I can&#8217;t imagine putting a puppy through any unnecessary pain just for appearance.  I pray that any &#8220;for appearance&#8221; surgery be outlawed.  Please think about the innocent puppies who have no voice.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy</title>
		<link>http://dobermansden.com/dobermanearcropping/comment-page-3/#comment-137232</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 05:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Beautiful Pearl, a 12-wk old fawn Doberman now lives in my home and my heart.  No crop yet and 2 vets say questionable at this age and given how soft and floppy her ears are.  Breeder says perfect age as cartilage is still developing.  Most people who see her thinks she is a Weimeraner.  She is wonderful without, but would be so elegant and unquestionably a Doberman with a medium crop.  I&#039;ve read every post here and am still so unsure.  I&#039;ve never had a dog where I had to decide to crop or not crop.  What a difficult decision.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beautiful Pearl, a 12-wk old fawn Doberman now lives in my home and my heart.  No crop yet and 2 vets say questionable at this age and given how soft and floppy her ears are.  Breeder says perfect age as cartilage is still developing.  Most people who see her thinks she is a Weimeraner.  She is wonderful without, but would be so elegant and unquestionably a Doberman with a medium crop.  I&#8217;ve read every post here and am still so unsure.  I&#8217;ve never had a dog where I had to decide to crop or not crop.  What a difficult decision.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2012 20:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We got a beautiful Doberman about 2 months ago.  at 12 weeks (5 days ago) we got his ears cropped and it&#039;s been a very difficult few days.  I was shocked the first time I saw him and the &quot;rawness&quot; of his ears, and eventhough he was extremely happy to see us, he was deffinitely experiencing pain and extreme itchyness.  last night he had huge scabs on his ears and, although it&#039;s been really hard, we&#039;ve been doing our best to put neosporin on his ears which seems to have INCREASED the itchyness, and has gotten very creative at finding ways to scratch his ears and this morning, most of his scabs had come off, and it looks pretty raw again.  I feel like a terrible pet owner for putting my puppy through this, I hope he doesn&#039;t resent me for it...I don&#039;t know if I can go through this again if we get another dobe.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We got a beautiful Doberman about 2 months ago.  at 12 weeks (5 days ago) we got his ears cropped and it&#8217;s been a very difficult few days.  I was shocked the first time I saw him and the &#8220;rawness&#8221; of his ears, and eventhough he was extremely happy to see us, he was deffinitely experiencing pain and extreme itchyness.  last night he had huge scabs on his ears and, although it&#8217;s been really hard, we&#8217;ve been doing our best to put neosporin on his ears which seems to have INCREASED the itchyness, and has gotten very creative at finding ways to scratch his ears and this morning, most of his scabs had come off, and it looks pretty raw again.  I feel like a terrible pet owner for putting my puppy through this, I hope he doesn&#8217;t resent me for it&#8230;I don&#8217;t know if I can go through this again if we get another dobe.</p>
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		<title>By: mickey</title>
		<link>http://dobermansden.com/dobermanearcropping/comment-page-3/#comment-134902</link>
		<dc:creator>mickey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2012 01:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I bred and showed dobies for 15yrs and then just retired out my girls. It has been 2 yrs since our last dobie past away and yes we are now the proud owners of two beautiful showgirls. Yesterday then both went in and had a long crop done. Their biggest grief was that the vets office separated them after their crops. When we got them home they were starving. They are playing and running around like they did prior to the crop and neither is bothering the others ears. When they think about scratching at their own ears we are hovering near by to tell them no. So far all seems to be going well and of course we are willing to tape for 6 mths if need be to get a strong stand out of them. As for us we will always crop our pups.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bred and showed dobies for 15yrs and then just retired out my girls. It has been 2 yrs since our last dobie past away and yes we are now the proud owners of two beautiful showgirls. Yesterday then both went in and had a long crop done. Their biggest grief was that the vets office separated them after their crops. When we got them home they were starving. They are playing and running around like they did prior to the crop and neither is bothering the others ears. When they think about scratching at their own ears we are hovering near by to tell them no. So far all seems to be going well and of course we are willing to tape for 6 mths if need be to get a strong stand out of them. As for us we will always crop our pups.</p>
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		<title>By: Liz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2012 14:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Everybody here is going to hate me for this, but I was reading many of these comments and had to say my own thoughts. I am in no way trying to force people to change their mind about ear cropping, I am simply trying to help people to make better informed choices.

Before even discussing ear cropping with a vet, please find out everything you can about the cropping procedure, the after effects on the health of the dog, and what happens if the surgery goes wrong. 

Please remember some of the downsides of ear cropping. For instance, expression. No matter what some people have commented on here, dogs who have cropped ears show less expression than dogs with floppy ears. Statistically speaking dogs with cropped ears are more likely to be attacked by other dogs, because the dog mistakes the other dogs body language. A dog will often hold its ears high, if it can see something interesting, or if it wants to show aggression towards another dog. If your dog has cropped ears another dog can easily think that your dog is trying to show dominance over it, if the other dog happens to be a very dominant dog it may react aggressively until the ears go down. Since the dogs ears are not able to go down the other dog may react in one of three ways (depending on how it was raised and its temperament) the first is to back off, this is because the dog has accepted your dogs dominance, the second is to completely ignore the signs, some dogs do not understand dog body language and will approach and want to play with any dog whom they happen to come across, and the third is for the dog to attempt to tear your dogs throat out. Tail docking often causes similar results, because a dog which is displaying dominance will hold its tail straight behind them and tail docking can make it look as though this is what the dog is doing. 

So basically you will never be able to socialise your dog with random dogs on the street, because you never know when one of them might turn. Even a dog who has never shown any aggression in its life can still try to injure and even kill a dog who is trying to be dominant over it. 

Also if you decide to go through with the surgery, fully research the vet who will be doing the operation. Ask the vet to show you photos of previous crops that they have done, if you vet refuses try someone else. Too many dogs are put through needles pain everyday because of bad vet choices.

Unless your dog is a hunter (which dobermans hardly ever are), the amount of sound a floppy eared dog gets through its ears is enough. I say this to a lot of people thinking about having their dogs ears cropped, but the crop will not help your dog be a better guard dog. A dog with decent hearing will be able to hear a person trying to climb over your fence or beak in through the door easily. To test this try sneaking up on a floppy eared dog, the only time I have ever been successful with catching any sort of dog off guard was my cousins bloodhound who happened to be 11 years old and half deaf at the time. The only reason why having a cropped doberman would help to deter a housebreaker is because a cropped doberman looks more menacing that a floppy eared doberman. 

To finnish I would like to to talk about my own experience with ear cropping. Three years ago I adopted a doberman puppy about 6 months old from a local pound. He had been dumped on the streets after a bad ear crop hadn&#039;t set properly. I took little Joey to my vet, he told me that the only way we could save the ears was to try and crop them a second time. Unfortunately when the vet started to the surgery he noticed a horrible smell, he made a small incision in his ear and found the remnants of the previous stitched from his last crop which had never been removed. The stitches had become infected and as his ear had started to heal, it had healed around the stitches obscuring them from view. Essentially Joey&#039;s ear was rotting from the inside out. My vet couldn&#039;t see any way of stopping the infection before it spread, so he decided to amputate. Poor Joey had both his ear amputated, unfortunately during the surgery Joey died while under anaesthesia. I think that it was good that Joey died when he did, because the pain it would have caused him would have been terrible and it would have continued for the rest of his life. 

A combination of abuse, neglect and ear cropping killed poor little Joey. I love dobermans, I now own 8 month old Logan who is an uncropped and undocked doberman. I am sure that many doberman owners who decide to go through with the cropping process are really good people and want the best for their dog, but whenever I see any sort of dog who has cropped ears I think of Joey and about how his death could have been prevented if his owner had not decided to crop. 

I would just like to enforce the fact that I am not trying to make people who have cropped dobermans feel bad or insult them in any way, all I am trying to do is express my own opinion. Just because my opinion is different to most people commenting on this site, does not mean that any of you have the right to bully me. I have told you my opinion, I have tried to include as much information as possible and advice about cropping, but remember I am biased because of my experiences, but really anyone who happens to own a cropped doberman is probably biased as well. In fact anyone in the world who owns a doberman is biased in their opinion. 

So if you have a doberman puppy and you are wondering whether or not you should crop, read all the information you can find, see everyones side of the argument and come to your own conclusion by yourself. 

Sorry for the long post, I tend to rant a bit.

Thankyou]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everybody here is going to hate me for this, but I was reading many of these comments and had to say my own thoughts. I am in no way trying to force people to change their mind about ear cropping, I am simply trying to help people to make better informed choices.</p>
<p>Before even discussing ear cropping with a vet, please find out everything you can about the cropping procedure, the after effects on the health of the dog, and what happens if the surgery goes wrong. </p>
<p>Please remember some of the downsides of ear cropping. For instance, expression. No matter what some people have commented on here, dogs who have cropped ears show less expression than dogs with floppy ears. Statistically speaking dogs with cropped ears are more likely to be attacked by other dogs, because the dog mistakes the other dogs body language. A dog will often hold its ears high, if it can see something interesting, or if it wants to show aggression towards another dog. If your dog has cropped ears another dog can easily think that your dog is trying to show dominance over it, if the other dog happens to be a very dominant dog it may react aggressively until the ears go down. Since the dogs ears are not able to go down the other dog may react in one of three ways (depending on how it was raised and its temperament) the first is to back off, this is because the dog has accepted your dogs dominance, the second is to completely ignore the signs, some dogs do not understand dog body language and will approach and want to play with any dog whom they happen to come across, and the third is for the dog to attempt to tear your dogs throat out. Tail docking often causes similar results, because a dog which is displaying dominance will hold its tail straight behind them and tail docking can make it look as though this is what the dog is doing. </p>
<p>So basically you will never be able to socialise your dog with random dogs on the street, because you never know when one of them might turn. Even a dog who has never shown any aggression in its life can still try to injure and even kill a dog who is trying to be dominant over it. </p>
<p>Also if you decide to go through with the surgery, fully research the vet who will be doing the operation. Ask the vet to show you photos of previous crops that they have done, if you vet refuses try someone else. Too many dogs are put through needles pain everyday because of bad vet choices.</p>
<p>Unless your dog is a hunter (which dobermans hardly ever are), the amount of sound a floppy eared dog gets through its ears is enough. I say this to a lot of people thinking about having their dogs ears cropped, but the crop will not help your dog be a better guard dog. A dog with decent hearing will be able to hear a person trying to climb over your fence or beak in through the door easily. To test this try sneaking up on a floppy eared dog, the only time I have ever been successful with catching any sort of dog off guard was my cousins bloodhound who happened to be 11 years old and half deaf at the time. The only reason why having a cropped doberman would help to deter a housebreaker is because a cropped doberman looks more menacing that a floppy eared doberman. </p>
<p>To finnish I would like to to talk about my own experience with ear cropping. Three years ago I adopted a doberman puppy about 6 months old from a local pound. He had been dumped on the streets after a bad ear crop hadn&#8217;t set properly. I took little Joey to my vet, he told me that the only way we could save the ears was to try and crop them a second time. Unfortunately when the vet started to the surgery he noticed a horrible smell, he made a small incision in his ear and found the remnants of the previous stitched from his last crop which had never been removed. The stitches had become infected and as his ear had started to heal, it had healed around the stitches obscuring them from view. Essentially Joey&#8217;s ear was rotting from the inside out. My vet couldn&#8217;t see any way of stopping the infection before it spread, so he decided to amputate. Poor Joey had both his ear amputated, unfortunately during the surgery Joey died while under anaesthesia. I think that it was good that Joey died when he did, because the pain it would have caused him would have been terrible and it would have continued for the rest of his life. </p>
<p>A combination of abuse, neglect and ear cropping killed poor little Joey. I love dobermans, I now own 8 month old Logan who is an uncropped and undocked doberman. I am sure that many doberman owners who decide to go through with the cropping process are really good people and want the best for their dog, but whenever I see any sort of dog who has cropped ears I think of Joey and about how his death could have been prevented if his owner had not decided to crop. </p>
<p>I would just like to enforce the fact that I am not trying to make people who have cropped dobermans feel bad or insult them in any way, all I am trying to do is express my own opinion. Just because my opinion is different to most people commenting on this site, does not mean that any of you have the right to bully me. I have told you my opinion, I have tried to include as much information as possible and advice about cropping, but remember I am biased because of my experiences, but really anyone who happens to own a cropped doberman is probably biased as well. In fact anyone in the world who owns a doberman is biased in their opinion. </p>
<p>So if you have a doberman puppy and you are wondering whether or not you should crop, read all the information you can find, see everyones side of the argument and come to your own conclusion by yourself. </p>
<p>Sorry for the long post, I tend to rant a bit.</p>
<p>Thankyou</p>
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