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		<title>By: Jaki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 13:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey mate wondering if u could please help me out, iam in australia and have a doberman that had its ear taped at 6 weeks, its just that its illegal here and noone can give me any info... They were orignally standing on a cup, once they healed i removed the cup and noticed that the ear were standing stright up by them self, i thought this was too short of time so i still posted them for a further 3 weeks, i took posts off every week for 3 weeks and replaced. The ears are currently standing perfectly straigh when his aleared, and when his relaxed they droop down a little too the side, but do not bend at all.. The tips are slighly bent, but very minimul.. Do u beleive the ears are ready now or should i post for longer?? Its a short crop by the way</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey mate wondering if u could please help me out, iam in australia and have a doberman that had its ear taped at 6 weeks, its just that its illegal here and noone can give me any info&#8230; They were orignally standing on a cup, once they healed i removed the cup and noticed that the ear were standing stright up by them self, i thought this was too short of time so i still posted them for a further 3 weeks, i took posts off every week for 3 weeks and replaced. The ears are currently standing perfectly straigh when his aleared, and when his relaxed they droop down a little too the side, but do not bend at all.. The tips are slighly bent, but very minimul.. Do u beleive the ears are ready now or should i post for longer?? Its a short crop by the way</p>
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		<title>By: Mako</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mako</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 15:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding cropping ears: My 3 month old Doberman pup is better behaved than other pups his age because he has already learned to behave during the taping/untaping process. I think you bond and understand each other the more handle and expect of them. 
We tape for 3 days only, then leave untaped for as long as they stand. I also supplement with powdered milk to help during the growing process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding cropping ears: My 3 month old Doberman pup is better behaved than other pups his age because he has already learned to behave during the taping/untaping process. I think you bond and understand each other the more handle and expect of them.<br />
We tape for 3 days only, then leave untaped for as long as they stand. I also supplement with powdered milk to help during the growing process.</p>
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		<title>By: Gretchen the Isabella Dobe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gretchen the Isabella Dobe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello! Our Isabella Dobermann, Gretchen, had her ears cropped at 10 weeks of age, on June 9, of this year. Her ears are fully healed and have been posted for over a week no. Her right ear is completely standing, with the aid of a breath right strip to keep the tip from flopping around. (She has a very long crop ^.^) Her left ear is still being posted as it&#039;s not standing the way I wish it to. I&#039;ll see how the right looks in a day or so. They still may need to be posted during the night to prevent her from sleeping on them wrong.

She is on Taste of the Wild, pacific stream salmon blend. Low in protein, great for her coat, and its for all life stages and breeds. My Chi&#039;s also adore the food! I have yet to supplement her with anything, though I plan on adding plain yogurt to her diet.

I think the ears standing is all based on the dog itself. Like I said - Gretchen has a VERY long crop, and her ears are already standing relatively well. I post for a week, then retape. I don&#039;t find it necessary to repost every 3-5 days as others do.

I am not a breeder, just a Dobe fancier. :)

An Added Note:

My dog was perfectly fine the day of her surgery. We dropped her off at a HIGHLY recommended, experienced vet at 9 in the morning. We picked her back up around 5pm later that day. She wasn&#039;t in pain, was running, active and alert.  Her ears did not look hot or bothersome, though the foam that was glued to her head was slightly irritating her.

I would not recommend having your dogs ears done by your local, or average run of the mill veterinarian. Look around and call some breeders for a recommended vet who knows what they are doing.

 Ear cropping is an art form that should only be left to the elite professionals. Natural ears are much better than a poorly done crop.

Please feel free to email me with any questions or concerns! I would be happy to supply pictures the day of surgery, to present :)

adorabull.xo@hotmail.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello! Our Isabella Dobermann, Gretchen, had her ears cropped at 10 weeks of age, on June 9, of this year. Her ears are fully healed and have been posted for over a week no. Her right ear is completely standing, with the aid of a breath right strip to keep the tip from flopping around. (She has a very long crop ^.^) Her left ear is still being posted as it&#8217;s not standing the way I wish it to. I&#8217;ll see how the right looks in a day or so. They still may need to be posted during the night to prevent her from sleeping on them wrong.</p>
<p>She is on Taste of the Wild, pacific stream salmon blend. Low in protein, great for her coat, and its for all life stages and breeds. My Chi&#8217;s also adore the food! I have yet to supplement her with anything, though I plan on adding plain yogurt to her diet.</p>
<p>I think the ears standing is all based on the dog itself. Like I said &#8211; Gretchen has a VERY long crop, and her ears are already standing relatively well. I post for a week, then retape. I don&#8217;t find it necessary to repost every 3-5 days as others do.</p>
<p>I am not a breeder, just a Dobe fancier. <img src='http://dobermansden.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>An Added Note:</p>
<p>My dog was perfectly fine the day of her surgery. We dropped her off at a HIGHLY recommended, experienced vet at 9 in the morning. We picked her back up around 5pm later that day. She wasn&#8217;t in pain, was running, active and alert.  Her ears did not look hot or bothersome, though the foam that was glued to her head was slightly irritating her.</p>
<p>I would not recommend having your dogs ears done by your local, or average run of the mill veterinarian. Look around and call some breeders for a recommended vet who knows what they are doing.</p>
<p> Ear cropping is an art form that should only be left to the elite professionals. Natural ears are much better than a poorly done crop.</p>
<p>Please feel free to email me with any questions or concerns! I would be happy to supply pictures the day of surgery, to present <img src='http://dobermansden.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><a href="mailto:adorabull.xo@hotmail.com">adorabull.xo@hotmail.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Abbey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abbey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 00:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just got my dobes ears done last week (he will be 10 wkd Monday), the top stitches and styrafoam cup came off today and the ears are healing without support (which is fine since we aren&#039;t posting yet and I trust my vet) his bottom stitches come out in 5 more days, and if all scabs are gone we will start posting.

I was wondering if anyone supplements with anything? He is currently on Orijen large breed puppy food (2009-2010 dog food of the year) but I read on a clinics web page to blend up a hardboiled egg, shell and all once a day.

I see someone said plain gelatin, any others reccommendations?

Thanks guys!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just got my dobes ears done last week (he will be 10 wkd Monday), the top stitches and styrafoam cup came off today and the ears are healing without support (which is fine since we aren&#8217;t posting yet and I trust my vet) his bottom stitches come out in 5 more days, and if all scabs are gone we will start posting.</p>
<p>I was wondering if anyone supplements with anything? He is currently on Orijen large breed puppy food (2009-2010 dog food of the year) but I read on a clinics web page to blend up a hardboiled egg, shell and all once a day.</p>
<p>I see someone said plain gelatin, any others reccommendations?</p>
<p>Thanks guys!</p>
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		<title>By: Deanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a doberman.  He is 8 months now and I never cropped his ears.
Of course that is how a dobe is &quot;supposed&quot; to look, but I couldn&#039;t go through with it.

As for him not being able to hear as well because his ears are floppy...I think that&#039;s bull.  My dog is also used as a working dog and he has NO problems hearing whatsoever.  Most working dogs and retrieving dogs for that matter, who depend on their hearing have floppy ears.

Dogs were born with an incredible gift of accute hearing, and most dogs are floppy eared.  I think that&#039;s a myth.  Also, I have heard nonsense about the dog&#039;s ears ripping because of their weight and infections and what not...again, pure bull.  I assume the people that came up with these rumours are the same that think a doberman&#039;s brain becomes to large for its skull and then goes crazy! lol.  What can be proved, is a lot of complications from ear cropping going bad because of vets that don&#039;t really know what they&#039;re doing.  So I would suggest to contact a registered breeder (even over the internet) and ask them for a contact - you will pay more, but for the health of your pup, it&#039;s worth it!

Don&#039;t get me wrong, I am in no way anti-cropping.  I still love the look, I just personally couldn&#039;t put my dog through it myself.  If I got him that way I would have been happy, but I didn&#039;t want to physically take him.

Any-hoo...that&#039;s my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a doberman.  He is 8 months now and I never cropped his ears.<br />
Of course that is how a dobe is &#8220;supposed&#8221; to look, but I couldn&#8217;t go through with it.</p>
<p>As for him not being able to hear as well because his ears are floppy&#8230;I think that&#8217;s bull.  My dog is also used as a working dog and he has NO problems hearing whatsoever.  Most working dogs and retrieving dogs for that matter, who depend on their hearing have floppy ears.</p>
<p>Dogs were born with an incredible gift of accute hearing, and most dogs are floppy eared.  I think that&#8217;s a myth.  Also, I have heard nonsense about the dog&#8217;s ears ripping because of their weight and infections and what not&#8230;again, pure bull.  I assume the people that came up with these rumours are the same that think a doberman&#8217;s brain becomes to large for its skull and then goes crazy! lol.  What can be proved, is a lot of complications from ear cropping going bad because of vets that don&#8217;t really know what they&#8217;re doing.  So I would suggest to contact a registered breeder (even over the internet) and ask them for a contact &#8211; you will pay more, but for the health of your pup, it&#8217;s worth it!</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I am in no way anti-cropping.  I still love the look, I just personally couldn&#8217;t put my dog through it myself.  If I got him that way I would have been happy, but I didn&#8217;t want to physically take him.</p>
<p>Any-hoo&#8230;that&#8217;s my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: kim</title>
		<link>http://dobermansden.com/dobermanearcropping/comment-page-1/#comment-3245</link>
		<dc:creator>kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 18:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had my dobie&#039;s ears cropped at between 11 weeks. We took him in for a consult at 8 weeks, and the vet said he would need more time for the cartilage to strengthen. We had a medium crop done. Our vet also had us leave his ears in a cup for 7 days while the stitches were in. Part of his stitches were taken out at day 7, and his ears were left down for a weekend before the remainder were removed at day 10. His ears were immediately taped as the edges were healed. Our vet taped for us on a schedule of 7 days up and 2 days down. We repeated this a couple of times. His ears stand on their own now. However, he&#039;s teething now, so I&#039;ve been re-posting them when they start to look a little droopy.

The worst part of the crop procedure for my puppy was just having to stay confined for the 7 days. He had prescription tranqulizers though that kept him knocked out for the most part though. He never seemed to be in pain, but he was pretty doped up. All in all, I don&#039;t think it was anymore traumatizing or painful that spaying or neutering. 

My advice is to find a vet that will tape and post the ears for you if you&#039;re a novice like I was. Once your puppy is used to the process, it&#039;s easier to attempt posting yourself.

I&#039;ve found using regular sized cardboard app tampons wrapped in bandage tape to be a good post. Plus the cotton on the end provides a cushion for the ear. It&#039;s cheap and easy and sturdy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had my dobie&#8217;s ears cropped at between 11 weeks. We took him in for a consult at 8 weeks, and the vet said he would need more time for the cartilage to strengthen. We had a medium crop done. Our vet also had us leave his ears in a cup for 7 days while the stitches were in. Part of his stitches were taken out at day 7, and his ears were left down for a weekend before the remainder were removed at day 10. His ears were immediately taped as the edges were healed. Our vet taped for us on a schedule of 7 days up and 2 days down. We repeated this a couple of times. His ears stand on their own now. However, he&#8217;s teething now, so I&#8217;ve been re-posting them when they start to look a little droopy.</p>
<p>The worst part of the crop procedure for my puppy was just having to stay confined for the 7 days. He had prescription tranqulizers though that kept him knocked out for the most part though. He never seemed to be in pain, but he was pretty doped up. All in all, I don&#8217;t think it was anymore traumatizing or painful that spaying or neutering. </p>
<p>My advice is to find a vet that will tape and post the ears for you if you&#8217;re a novice like I was. Once your puppy is used to the process, it&#8217;s easier to attempt posting yourself.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve found using regular sized cardboard app tampons wrapped in bandage tape to be a good post. Plus the cotton on the end provides a cushion for the ear. It&#8217;s cheap and easy and sturdy.</p>
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		<title>By: Paulette</title>
		<link>http://dobermansden.com/dobermanearcropping/comment-page-1/#comment-3209</link>
		<dc:creator>Paulette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 12:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it will depend on where (which part of the country) you&#039;re having the cropping done, but my puppy&#039;s crop cost $125. 

My vet wanted to do the crop no earlier than 11 weeks. He prefers to do it between 11 and 12 weeks, but no later than 14 weeks. According to him, after 14 weeks the cartiledge starts to thicken and it makes it a long difficult process to get the ears to stand, and there&#039;s no guarantee they&#039;ll ever stand. Before 11 weeks the ears are not developed well enough so it makes it more difficult to make them look right at maturity. 

Keep in mind, this is all my vet&#039;s opinion. I don&#039;t have any solid answers from personal knowledge. We posted our puppy&#039;s ears for about a month and a half, and now they&#039;ve been standing for over a week. Here&#039;s hoping they stay that way. 

To Jill - I wasn&#039;t suggesting that people that crop don&#039;t love their dogs. Remember I chose to crop as well, although I am a bit bitter over the lack of real honest information out there and feel that I was not honestly informed about the downside of the procedure because both sides are more worried about defending their opinions than giving unbiased, accurate information. I don&#039;t agree about the hearing. My other dog with floppy ears has excellent hearing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it will depend on where (which part of the country) you&#8217;re having the cropping done, but my puppy&#8217;s crop cost $125. </p>
<p>My vet wanted to do the crop no earlier than 11 weeks. He prefers to do it between 11 and 12 weeks, but no later than 14 weeks. According to him, after 14 weeks the cartiledge starts to thicken and it makes it a long difficult process to get the ears to stand, and there&#8217;s no guarantee they&#8217;ll ever stand. Before 11 weeks the ears are not developed well enough so it makes it more difficult to make them look right at maturity. </p>
<p>Keep in mind, this is all my vet&#8217;s opinion. I don&#8217;t have any solid answers from personal knowledge. We posted our puppy&#8217;s ears for about a month and a half, and now they&#8217;ve been standing for over a week. Here&#8217;s hoping they stay that way. </p>
<p>To Jill &#8211; I wasn&#8217;t suggesting that people that crop don&#8217;t love their dogs. Remember I chose to crop as well, although I am a bit bitter over the lack of real honest information out there and feel that I was not honestly informed about the downside of the procedure because both sides are more worried about defending their opinions than giving unbiased, accurate information. I don&#8217;t agree about the hearing. My other dog with floppy ears has excellent hearing.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
		<link>http://dobermansden.com/dobermanearcropping/comment-page-1/#comment-3086</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 04:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently called a highly recommended vet for doing ears and I was told that he did not do it before 14 wks. Yet I read varying times from 7 wks up. I am planning to do a medium crop on her. The lady that answered the phone said that he waits til this age because it allows the ears more time to grow so you can get a better (more accurate) look. He does a consult/physical exam and asks that you bring in a pic of the crop you want. She also said that he will tell you how likely it is that the ears will stand based off the leather, etc. Can anyone give me any insight on this, as in opinions, potential warnings or problems, etc. Thank you in advance for any input.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently called a highly recommended vet for doing ears and I was told that he did not do it before 14 wks. Yet I read varying times from 7 wks up. I am planning to do a medium crop on her. The lady that answered the phone said that he waits til this age because it allows the ears more time to grow so you can get a better (more accurate) look. He does a consult/physical exam and asks that you bring in a pic of the crop you want. She also said that he will tell you how likely it is that the ears will stand based off the leather, etc. Can anyone give me any insight on this, as in opinions, potential warnings or problems, etc. Thank you in advance for any input.</p>
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		<title>By: Marianna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marianna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 20:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi......Im planning t buy a doberman and anyone plz tell me how much it costs to crp its ears?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi&#8230;&#8230;Im planning t buy a doberman and anyone plz tell me how much it costs to crp its ears?</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 00:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have had Dobermans for 20 years as pets and always have cropped their ears. My personal experience has been that my pups are in much less discomfort than being spayed. Which is to say they were back to normal in one day. the taping did not bother them after one day also. It is key to find a very good vet and to take proper care of the ears to avoid any issues or pain. I love the breed and animals in general and would not crop if I saw it casued my pups pain. I have had other dogs that have long ears that have been ripped by other playing dogs and they just keep going with no thought to it, pretty much the same if you ask me. It is not for everyone that is for sure but mine uses their cropped ears to localize sound better and seem to have better expressions than those of Dobes without their ears cropped. My Dobermans are working dogs as well as pets, they are used for personal protection as well as for family pets and the cropped ear helps them hear things quicker and easier than if not cropped. The breed was developed with this characteristic long before they became house pets and I find it serves them well as a family protector as well. If I ever decide not to crop my Dobermans ears then I would get a weimeraner who does not have cropped ears and a breed the Doberman was breed from. Just my experience. My Dobies ears always stand within one month and never have required taping after that, I always get a med crop.
 Either way the Doberman is for me the finest breed out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had Dobermans for 20 years as pets and always have cropped their ears. My personal experience has been that my pups are in much less discomfort than being spayed. Which is to say they were back to normal in one day. the taping did not bother them after one day also. It is key to find a very good vet and to take proper care of the ears to avoid any issues or pain. I love the breed and animals in general and would not crop if I saw it casued my pups pain. I have had other dogs that have long ears that have been ripped by other playing dogs and they just keep going with no thought to it, pretty much the same if you ask me. It is not for everyone that is for sure but mine uses their cropped ears to localize sound better and seem to have better expressions than those of Dobes without their ears cropped. My Dobermans are working dogs as well as pets, they are used for personal protection as well as for family pets and the cropped ear helps them hear things quicker and easier than if not cropped. The breed was developed with this characteristic long before they became house pets and I find it serves them well as a family protector as well. If I ever decide not to crop my Dobermans ears then I would get a weimeraner who does not have cropped ears and a breed the Doberman was breed from. Just my experience. My Dobies ears always stand within one month and never have required taping after that, I always get a med crop.<br />
 Either way the Doberman is for me the finest breed out there.</p>
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